On 15 Nov 2011, at 12:05, Yoav Nir wrote:
> Hi Frederic
>
> Inline...
>
> On Nov 15, 2011, at 11:42 AM, Frederic Detienne wrote:
>
>> Hi Yoav,
>>
>> We will be there (following offline with you for the details).
>>
>> I do not think there is a need to spend 20 minutes on the draft which
>> everyone should have read. There are three vague points in it and 10 min
>> seem largely sufficient.
>
> 20 minutes includes time spent on hellos, introductions, asking if everyone
> has read the draft, jabber scribe, testing the audio, and all other kinds of
> administrivia. You've been to IETF sessions before, and you know how that
> goes.
absolutely. Then we agree on the 20 min.
>> At this stage several vendors think they have a fair understanding of the
>> requirements and a gap analysis is much more productive and constructive. I
>> have just asked Chris Ulliott to provide his feedback in case audio fails on
>> us. We can factor his reply in the discussions.
>
> To me the biggest gap in existing solutions is that they require kludges like
> GRE tunnels and route-based VPN, and also that they don't cover the
> provisioning of credentials. GRE tunnels and route-based VPNs I consider a
> kludge because you are then required to treat VPN tunnels as interfaces.
> Interfaces are much more resource intensive when compared to simple SAs, and
> most operating systems are very limited in the number of interfaces that they
> support.
These are all very vague but generally misinformed statements.
>> We will not send our presentation in advance but we will publish the
>> relevant material after the meeting. The discussion following the
>> presentations is likely to bring additional material to the table.
>
> Downloadable presentations help people who are following remotely (like
> Chris) in case the audio does not fail.
we can share via webex if needed.
fred
>>
>> regards,
>>
>> fred
>
>
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