Yoav Nir writes:
> > So you still didn't explain what GRE does better than modern IPsec
> > tunneling?
> 
> I think GRE (or any tunnel that is not IPsec - like L2TP) allows
> them to avoid having to deal with RFC 4301 stuff like SPD. The only
> selector they need is for the GRE tunnel (protocol 43?) or the L2TP
> tunnel (UDP 1701). 

I.e. bypass the security mechanishms provided the security protocol. 

> That means that your security policy is effectively determined by
> the routing protocol.

I.e. move the security from the security protocol to something else
which is not a security protocol. Is this really something we want to
do? Who is going to make sure the end result is secure?
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