Hi Paul,

sorry, I don't understand your statement. Yes, IKEv1 is popular but (formally) obsolete. It is still our responsibility to ensure that it doesn't gain new and insecure extensions in its old age. The way we do it is through the normal IETF/RFC-Ed/IANA bureaucratic processes.

Unlike Tero, I don't think people will be adding non-IETF extensions of this sort to IKEv1. New crypto algorithms, maybe. But new authentication methods? I'd be surprised.

I'm fine with Tero's proposal to resolve this question in Paris.

Thanks,
        Yaron

On 02/09/2012 08:10 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
On Feb 9, 2012, at 9:59 AM, Yaron Sheffer wrote:

Hi Pearl, Tero,

Regarding the first change (IPsec Auth Methods), I prefer the existing language. Even 
though IKEv1 has been obsoleted, I think change control of this central piece of the 
protocol needs to still require a higher bar than just "specification required".

I'm afraid my co-chair disagrees, but he can surely speak for himself...

I do, and I can. The overhead of requiring IETF and RFC Editor process for 
extensions to a popular-but-obsolete protocol is not worth it. If someone 
publishes a new authentication mechanism for IKEv1 that has significant flaws 
(and they certainly will), they publish a new document and it gets a new 
identifier. This will damp out fairly quickly, and auth mechanism developers 
will get more input before publishing.

--Paul Hoffman

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