The concern is not about stand-alone puzzles document. It is about an 
Experimental status
of that document versus Standards Track in the current draft. Vendors tend to 
ignore Experimental RFCs.

The conventional wisdom is that vendors tend to ignore whatever status the IETF assigns to documents and implement whatever meets their goals.

That's true in general. However Experimaental status makes vendors more 
suspicious that
they will spend resources implementing the protocol and gain little, because 
most other
vendors will refrane from implementing it. For puzzles to work they must become 
ubiquitous.

My preference is to keep it all in one document, and clearly state that the 
puzzle part of the document is OPTIONAL,
meaning that you can comply with the RFC even without implementing it.

That's my preference too. In fact, the current draft doesn't mandate to 
implement
(or even to use) puzzles, so they are already optional.

There is a concern about an Initiator that does not implement puzzles 
connecting to a Responder that does.
Things will work fine until there is a DoS attack and then we’re helping the 
attacker by denying service
to the non-implementing Initiator. And that could happen between an Initiator 
and Responder,
both of whom can claim compliance with the document. This isn’t great, but 
separating them into two documents
does not make the problem go away.

That's true.

Yoav

Regards,
Valery.
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