On 06/02/2014 17:52, Andrew 👽  Yourtchenko wrote:

Last time I checked, anyone with available days off can take them at
any time for any reason.

Most places aren't quite that generous; notice, simultaneous team member leave and "exceptional circumstance" clauses typically apply.

But I take your point; individuals are of course free, modulo such concerns, to take time off for their own reasons.

IMHO taking a days leave because IPv4 is still required is silly. But hey, who am I to say?

That's exactly the idea. It's explicitly *NOT* to break others'
networks nor to have the innocent users suffer.

Ok. But if you read the replies to the original email, it's clear a lot of people didn't get that. So there is a messaging problem here.

Having a defined day when others are doing the same thing makes it
easier to allocate the time for it, at least for some.

Shrug. If you say so.

If you are talking about the original wording on the AVAAZ - I'd be
very happy to hear better wording, feel free to unicast.

My problem is entirely with the work point. Denying yourself online shopping and facebook is just that - self-denial. Though a really brave option would be to do that *permanently*, and let the retailers know why you're *never* shopping with them until they're v6-ready.

Denying yourself the ability to work *in the field you're trying to affect change* seems futile.

It would be better to go to work, try and work with IPv4 disabled, make a note of everything that didn't work, then commit to fixing it all before the same time next year. That's both far harder, and far more productive, than throwing your hands in the air and saying "nothing works without IPv4" - which is not a surprising conclusion ;o)

IMHO effort at this point would be best directed to the large, holdout
broadband providers in countries with low uptake (e.g. BT in the UK).


What would that effort consist of ?

That is an excellent question which I am not well equipped to answer. If there is anyone on the list with insight in the UK broadband market, and any workable suggestions and/or hopeful news, I'd love to hear it.

I note that BT have, recently, gone to the expense of deploying CGN but not IPv6 - which is not promising. Aalthough the newest CPE has IPv6 stuff in the UI, currently all disabled, so maybe they'll turn it on later...

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