On Mon 26 Oct 2015, 11:23, Piotr Strzyzewski wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:02:52AM +0100, Gert Doering wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:46:02AM +0100, Ond??ej Caletka wrote: > > > I think the technology is mature enough to be provided as a regular RIPE > > > NCC service during the meeting - that means regular network name and, > > > most important, a password that is propagated in the same way the normal > > > Wi-Fi network password is. This is especially important for the one > > > third of newcomers that have had a big troubles learning the password of > > > the IPV6ONLYEXP network. > > > > > > After RIPE 70, I proposed a "drastic" approach [1], renaming the > > > dual-stack meeting network to -legacy and promote the NAT64 network as > > > the default. This is the same way they do it on FOSDEM since 2014 [2]. > > > But maybe we could try a slow start first, keeping the dual-stacked > > > network the default and offering the NAT64 network with some suffix like > > > -v6only. > > > > I'm with you that we should no longer market the IPv6-only as "this is an > > experiment, it will not work, and is unreliable anyway, so use on your > > own risk!" network. This is what Internet looks like on more and more > > mobile networks already today - time to get used to it. > > +1 > > > OTOH, I'm not sure whether it should be default - can Android cope with > > IPv6-only networks today? If yes, then go for it :-) - if not, maybe not > > this year... > > If not, Android users could use this "-legacy" network the same way like > so called "pioneers" use this "experimental" one last time at RIPE > Meeting.
What I remember from the last meeting is that often the applications seem to be the problem (Skype, for example). I think the most important thing here is the availability of 'troubleshooting information', so people know where to look in case things don't work. Jen made a list with troublesome applications: if that list is available at the network operation room, it can function as a shortcut. 'Program $X is not working? Try the legacy ssid' And +1 on removing terminology like 'legacy'. luuk
