Anno domini 2016 Benedikt Stockebrand scripsit:

Hi,

> > About two years ago there was a large German VoIP provider complaining
> > that all these evil German cable providers had started using IPv6. They
> > wrote about it in an their BLOG. There were about 70 comments in the
> > form of "Why don't you just provide IPv6?"
> 
> Don't forget to mention their statement in that blog that "it's a
> problem between you and your ISP."  Telling that to users who have been
> switched to DS-Lite (without their ISP even telling them, at least in
> some cases), and whose "land line" phone stopped working, that's about
> as good as it gets when you really, really, REALLY want some customers
> never ever to come back.
> 
> "*Our* Internet works, so it must be yours that needs fixing!"
> 
> "We have enough IPv4 addresses for ourselves, so this isn't a problem to
> us."

That's the dumbest and sadly most oftenly heared sentence in this context.

I had hoped that there were some IPv6 only/broken IPv4 services around
today that would show people that's not the way to go, but I don't
know any. Does anyone have a good example here?

Even in the educational sector where I work, where we have enough[tm]
money for hardware and tutorials there's no interest in a useful deployment.
Activating v6 in the 5k+ users wifi is delayed (again) for next year, because
it's neither important or urgent. That's the point where I gave up

What I absolutely fail to grasp is why people don't want to deploy
this v6 stuff while they have a chance to do it without user/customer/
peer pressure but want to wait until the pressure gets too high.
Don't anyone talk about diamonds now..

> > There was a lot of time to see that IPv6 is coming. There are still
> > networking projects today that are not build with IPv6 in mind[3].
> 
> And then there are those network projects that claim they support IPv6
> but actually only do "IPv4 with longer addresses".  But that's the real
> problem: There's a painful shortage of people who know about networking
> in general, but with IPv6 it's absolutely hopeless.  There aren't even
> enough people who just memorized enough cookbook recipes they don't
> understand to get IPv6 (sort of) up and running.

*sigh*

Where's that drain cleaner?

Best
Max
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