On 2012-01-10 06:08, Fred Baker wrote:
> On Jan 6, 2012, at 8:26 PM, Fernando Gont wrote:
> 
>> I just said that PLPMTU has a long convergence time
> 
> Frankly, that sounds like an implementation issue. If we're willing to set 
> IW=10, it seems like one should be able to send the initial burst, or at 
> least the first retransmission, with messages of several sizes and see what 
> works. In other words, if the MSS is 9K (I wish), send a 9K, a 4K, a 1500 
> byte IP datagram (eg 1440 byte payload), and 1280. If we get an Ack in the 
> subsequent RTT acknowledging 8192 bytes, we learned something, and if the 
> only Ack acknowledges 1280, we learned something.

Right. And the point Fernando queried in my previous message was
simply trying to say "happy eyeballs doesn't do this" - it will leave
the user hanging if TCP connects but PMTUD or MSS negotiation fails.

   Brian
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