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From: "ebrahimsaifuddin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2005 17:00:24 -0000
Subject: [Revealing_the_truth] Mirza Ghulam's Prophecy of age till 80 unfulfilled by Allah(swt)


I am going to divide this in different parts for ease of others to understand


PART A

Mirza Ghulam Ahmad boldly claimed that he has received a revelation from Allah(swt) that he will live till the age of 80 or maybe even more. This is recorded in Roohani Khazaein Vol 19 Page 239:

"God have given me good news that I shall live till 80 years or maybe even more."

Ghulam Ahmad was born in 1839 and he died in 1908 (http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/a/ahmadiyy.asp). This is a total of 69 years

Prophecy Unfulfilled – Allah(swt) exposed this dajjal for all mankind to see.


PART B

Now some Qadianis that I have also talked to previously say that he was not born in 1839, rather he was born in 1835.

Firstly I would like to point it out to everyone that I gave a link to an encyclopedia that confirms his year of birth to be 1839. The above link was to encyclopedia.com and below I will give other links to another encyclopedia that will further confirm the year of birth: - Ghulam Ahmad, Mirza ( http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article?tocId=9365553&query=ghulam%20ahmad&ct= )
- Ahmadiyya (http://www.bartleby.com/65/ah/Ahmadiyy.html)


Now would the Qadianis say that Muslims / anti Qadianis have written Britannica Encyclopedia as well all the others that I have given references to?

Anyways so the Qadiani people kept on insisting like little babies that it is 1835. I told them that I will not argue with them for now whether it was 1839 or 1835 and for arguments sake I will accept for now that it is 1835.

So that would mean he died at the age of 73 which is NOT 80!!

It still does not fulfill the prophecy!!!

Once again the dajjal is exposed!


PART C

So then this one qadiani told me that Mirza Sahib's age is not even known!! It was not 1835! His real year of birth isn't even known!! She said that Mirza Ghulam did not even KNOW his age!! Thus, she concluded that it cannot be said if the prophecy was fulfilled or
not because no one knows his real year of birth.

My Reply to her:

1. The Official Qadiani Website (http://www.alislam.org/library/links/00000185.html) clearly says that his year of birth was 1835. (Read the 1st line of the 3rd paragraph)

This qadiani misguided soul was so hell bent on proving the dajjal to be right that she just declared their Official Website to be LIARS!! Now that's funny

2. If Mirza did not know his age then how in the world can he say that he will live for 80 years or more?! That is like misguiding people. When a person does not know his age then how can Mirza say that he will die at 80 or more?!? Only a devious man would do such a thing because if no one knows his age and he himself does not know his age then him making a prophecy regarding his age would mean that no one can counter check it. If it cannot be counter checked then it is the work of satan to confuse people!

3. Allah(swt) is not evil or devious! Therefore if this would have been a revelation, then surely Allah(swt) would have informed him of his actual age! A person who claimed himself to be a prophet does not know his age and YET prophesized regarding his age?!!?
NONSENSE!! This is the work of Satan!!


PART D

And then she and this other qadiani said that the actual prophecy was different
She told me that is was "a little less or a little more than 80"
The other fellow told me that is was "5 years less or 5 years more"

Seriously these Qadianis need to make up their minds and agree between themselves first!!

I have the scanned images from the page mentioned above to prove that the words of Mirza Ghulam were:

"80 years or more"

Note: There is NO "a little less" or "5 years less"

However the Qadianis reject this. They are rejecting a book written by a person who they claim to be a prophet?! That's odd!

In the end we are left with the following which ghulam ahmad is to have said regarding a prophecy about his age:
1. 80 years or more
2. A little less or a little more than 80
3. 5 years less or 5 years more than 80

I ask What the hell is this?!!?!? You call this a revelation from Allah(swt)? I say this is exactly how a "revelation" from Satan would be like!!

Is Ghulam Ahmad trying to tell us that Allah is so indecisive that He (swt) was not even sure about something that He(swt) was revealing?!!?

So I asked the qadiani female whether she would say "indecisive prophet or indecisive God?"

And well she put me on her ignore list from then onwards, running away from the truth.

Allah(swt) exposed this liar ghulam ahmad and did not let his prophecy come to pass. This is enough evidence to know that a person is not a prophet but a liar!!

It was Mirza Ghulam himself who said:

"To Judge my truthfulness or lies, there is no better test than my prophecies." (Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 19, P. 288)

"It is not possible that the prophecies of Prophets are delayed." (Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 19, P. 5)

"To turn out a liar in his own prophecy is biggest disgrace of disgraces." (Roohany Khazaen, Vol. 15, P. 382)

I have proved above that Ghulam Ahmad was nothing but a liar and his prophecy was NEVER FULFILLED, hence according to his own sayings he
was a LIAR and nothing more.

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Note: All quotes from Roohani Khazaein can be provided by me as scanned images of concerned pages. There is no way Qadianis can deny what is written in the book.


When Allah and His Messenger have decided something it is not for any man or woman of the believers to have a choice about it. Anyone who disobeys Allah and His Messenger is clearly misguided. (33:36)

Prophethood and Messengership has ended. Lo, there is neither any messenger nor any prophet after me.
Source: Tirmizi, Musnad Ahmed

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