Oh dear

Again those unreliable and crooked customers overseas.

May be you should do some due diligence on your customer instead of relying 
too much on others.

If you have a problem, the first thought should be "what did I do wrong" 
instead of claiming "the others did it again to me"

Hope this suggestion helps.

Robert

Who sells 90% overseas


At 01:32 PM 10/11/2002, you wrote:
>another good one with UPS and FED-EX is this...
>
>A...shipper in US
>B ..client overseas
>
>B calls and sends payment to A.
>B has A ship on UPS/FedEx account
>
>weeks later A gets bill from carrier for
>shipping, taxes and duties...
>
>A calls shipper/carrier, they state B refused to pay
>so A is responsible, says it is in the fine print
>on the shipping labels, so pay...
>
>A says " ya but i called carrier office before shipping
>and B's account number was good, carrier says "sorry
>but B does not have a billable account"
>
>A says "at time of shipping they did" carries says "sorry".
>
>A says " what did they do? cancel the account while shipment
>was in route?"
>
>carrier says," sorry i can not talk about that"
>
>A says," well what if i order product from overseas and have it
>shipped on my account, then call you and cancel my account,
>would you then bill the sender lets say in England?"..
>
>Carrier says, " you can not do that sir as you do not have a billable
>account"
>
>A says " exactly, i do not have a FedEx account so how can you bill me?"
>and if your now telling me that B has no billable account why did you
>on the order of B send a truck to pick up the product, i (A) did not call
>you, i did not arrange the pick up, B did...."
>
>carrier says, "sorry i can not talk about that "
>
>SO moral of the story, A is screwed, FedEx paid by A.....again by threat of
>law.
>
>and let me warn you all further, even if B has a valid account but does pay
>the bill to carrier, we that good old American shipper is responsible..so be
>sure that the shipping is paid in advance and even better get 20 percent
>additional
>to cover tax and duties that you can refund when your sure that the client
>has paid that on their end....because if the client overseas does not pay
>ups
>and FedEx, they will still deliver to them and hit you.
>
>The best way i have found is to ship with private carrier for large
>shipments like
>John S Connor in Washington DC (phone available on request) or with the
>USPS..if they ship
>and the client is playing games and will not pay, they keep it and sell to
>cover
>costs, they do not hit the shipper! and with both of these ways of shipping
>i
>personally have not had a problem at all....
>
>I hope this does not give those of you "Overseas" any ideas on how to screw
>us US
>shippers, and i pray that all the vendors on this list would start refusing
>to ship on
>client accounts and collect for tax and duties up front, if we all do not
>then
>the prospective buyer can just call until he finds a "sucker" if we all do
>then
>the "bad guys" will find no one that will....
>
>Even good overseas buyers with a few years of good track record can and do
>pull this, i have seen warnings on this list concerning a couple overseas
>vendors that
>where like gold and now do not pay the shipping,...
>
>the bad economy is hitting us all, global and has many trying and doing
>things they
>would not have considered years ago, sometimes not meant to be malicious or
>an attempt at a rip off, but may be an attempt at stalling a payment or
>expenditure, but
>that SNOWBALLS as the money comes tighter, "peter and Paul" get sick if you
>will, and well
>someone gets stuck, and a good guy is now bad....
>
>lucent and Cisco just announced thousands , many thousands of lay offs
>again, Boeing to
>many many K's.... watch your back guys! tighten your seat belts, and start
>buying
>and holding real assets and food, things can not inevitably get better if
>all the consumers
>are laid off,...
>(nothing to do with topic at hand, but a pet subject, sorry)
>
>see ya.
>
>
>
>Albert
>
>
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