your note was pretty silly to say it mildly,...Rob. who are to speak of how the FedEx and ups treat American shippers anyway? being your located in Luxembourg and all...
if you read what i posted "sir" you will see i did, and the pick up was between fed ex and it's client overseas, they with fed ex arranged the pick up, would i not be thinking right to assume that the client had a valid account that was in good standing for fed ex to do the pick up ? PLUS,....plus i called to verify the account with fed ex the morning of the pick up, all was supposedly well,... so because you are supposedly lucky, do not mock all of us that are getting ripped off... this sort of crap cost me over 5K in the last year, that hurt pretty good to say the least . Albert > -----Original Message----- > From: Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 8:57 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [isp-equipment] Re: yet another UPS Warning :shipping overseas, > > > Oh dear > > Again those unreliable and crooked customers overseas. > > May be you should do some due diligence on your customer instead > of relying > too much on others. > > If you have a problem, the first thought should be "what did I do wrong" > instead of claiming "the others did it again to me" > > Hope this suggestion helps. > > Robert > > Who sells 90% overseas > > > At 01:32 PM 10/11/2002, you wrote: > >another good one with UPS and FED-EX is this... > > > >A...shipper in US > >B ..client overseas > > > >B calls and sends payment to A. > >B has A ship on UPS/FedEx account > > > >weeks later A gets bill from carrier for > >shipping, taxes and duties... > > > >A calls shipper/carrier, they state B refused to pay > >so A is responsible, says it is in the fine print > >on the shipping labels, so pay... > > > >A says " ya but i called carrier office before shipping > >and B's account number was good, carrier says "sorry > >but B does not have a billable account" > > > >A says "at time of shipping they did" carries says "sorry". > > > >A says " what did they do? cancel the account while shipment > >was in route?" > > > >carrier says," sorry i can not talk about that" > > > >A says," well what if i order product from overseas and have it > >shipped on my account, then call you and cancel my account, > >would you then bill the sender lets say in England?".. > > > >Carrier says, " you can not do that sir as you do not have a billable > >account" > > > >A says " exactly, i do not have a FedEx account so how can you bill me?" > >and if your now telling me that B has no billable account why did you > >on the order of B send a truck to pick up the product, i (A) did not call > >you, i did not arrange the pick up, B did...." > > > >carrier says, "sorry i can not talk about that " > > > >SO moral of the story, A is screwed, FedEx paid by A.....again > by threat of > >law. > > > >and let me warn you all further, even if B has a valid account > but does pay > >the bill to carrier, we that good old American shipper is > responsible..so be > >sure that the shipping is paid in advance and even better get 20 percent > >additional > >to cover tax and duties that you can refund when your sure that > the client > >has paid that on their end....because if the client overseas does not pay > >ups > >and FedEx, they will still deliver to them and hit you. > > > >The best way i have found is to ship with private carrier for large > >shipments like > >John S Connor in Washington DC (phone available on request) or with the > >USPS..if they ship > >and the client is playing games and will not pay, they keep it > and sell to > >cover > >costs, they do not hit the shipper! and with both of these ways > of shipping > >i > >personally have not had a problem at all.... > > > >I hope this does not give those of you "Overseas" any ideas on > how to screw > >us US > >shippers, and i pray that all the vendors on this list would > start refusing > >to ship on > >client accounts and collect for tax and duties up front, if we all do not > >then > >the prospective buyer can just call until he finds a "sucker" if > we all do > >then > >the "bad guys" will find no one that will.... > > > >Even good overseas buyers with a few years of good track record > can and do > >pull this, i have seen warnings on this list concerning a couple overseas > >vendors that > >where like gold and now do not pay the shipping,... > > > >the bad economy is hitting us all, global and has many trying and doing > >things they > >would not have considered years ago, sometimes not meant to be > malicious or > >an attempt at a rip off, but may be an attempt at stalling a payment or > >expenditure, but > >that SNOWBALLS as the money comes tighter, "peter and Paul" get > sick if you > >will, and well > >someone gets stuck, and a good guy is now bad.... > > > >lucent and Cisco just announced thousands , many thousands of lay offs > >again, Boeing to > >many many K's.... watch your back guys! tighten your seat belts, > and start > >buying > >and holding real assets and food, things can not inevitably get better if > >all the consumers > >are laid off,... > >(nothing to do with topic at hand, but a pet subject, sorry) > > > >see ya. > > > > > > > >Albert > > > > > >___________ The ISP-EQUIPMENT Discussion List ___________ > >Reading this email constitutes your consent to our guidelines > >[http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-equipment/guidelines/] > >To Join: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To Remove: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Archives: http://isp-lists.isp-planet.com/isp-equipment/archives/ > > > >--- > >You are currently subscribed to isp-equipment as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To unsubscribe send a blank email to > >%%email.unsub%% > > > ________________________________ > This Email was written by Robert Carter > > In case you wish, secured mail can be sent. 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