Dear Nasir,
Dial-up connections are Async connections and BRI is a dial-up connection as
well.
Regards,
Saif Rahman
Chief Executive
eWorld (Pvt) Ltd.
506 Progressive Plaza,
Beaumont Rd., Civil Lines,
Karachi 75530
111-246-246/voice
92-21-5219318/fax
----- Original Message -----
From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "saif rahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 28 June, 2001 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
>
> I beleive that a customer using his BRI and dialing into your PRI is
> using a Sync connection.
>
> This is what I have been insisting all the way, that there is no way an
> EIS license cannot provide service on a DXX. There is absolutely no logic
> to it.
>
> All we have to do is to tell these people at PTA that we can provide
> service on DXX on an EIS license, and they cannot stop it, and they will
> give another letter, like they have been giving in the past, and we all be
> happy.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Nasir.
>
>
> On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, saif rahman wrote:
>
> > Dear Nasir,
> >
> > I believe it is the Async vs. Sync connection that is carrying the
> > distinction. For references and publication, I agree we should have
> > something from GOP.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Saif Rahman
> > Chief Executive
> > eWorld (Pvt) Ltd.
> > 506 Progressive Plaza,
> > Beaumont Rd., Civil Lines,
> > Karachi 75530
> > 111-246-246/voice
> > 92-21-5219318/fax
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "saif rahman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: 28 June, 2001 2:50 PM
> > Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Saif Sahib,
> > >
> > > Do you have any reference in ITU, PTA, PTCL or GOP publications /
> > > standards, about this serial connectivity ?? Can you pls provide them
to
> > > me ??
> > >
> > > What would you consider a modem, ISDN PRI Interface, or ISDN BRI
Interface
> > > ??? Serial or not ????
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Nasir.
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, 28 Jun 2001, saif rahman wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear all,
> > > >
> > > > If you provide connectivity thru a serial interface then you are
> > required to
> > > > have a DNOP license. This is one distinction b/w the EIS and the
DNOP
> > > > license.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Saif Rahman
> > > > Chief Executive
> > > > eWorld (Pvt) Ltd.
> > > > 506 Progressive Plaza,
> > > > Beaumont Rd., Civil Lines,
> > > > Karachi 75530
> > > > 111-246-246/voice
> > > > 92-21-5219318/fax
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Cc: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Ateeq.M.Khan"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: 27 June, 2001 8:16 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > The similar case was discussed and was decided in PTA. The case
was
> > IBM
> > > > > > ( Mr.Sana Zaidi) As DNOP provided bandwidth to Lahore Chamber
but
> > PTA
> > > > on
> > > > > > complaint of PTCL ordered to disconnect this circuit . PTA was
> > in-view
> > > > that
> > > > > > only PTCL can provide bandwidth, at that time we got approval
from
> > PTA
> > > > that
> > > > > > DNOP can provides bandwidth to ISP and ISP can not provide
bandwidth
> > to
> > > > any
> > > > > > one.
> > > > >
> > > > > PTCL does not want us to do any thing. Any we do is illegal to
them.
> > > > >
> > > > > We worked to agree PTA that DNOP can sell, so now we should fight
to
> > say
> > > > > that ISP can also.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Again PTCL charged that DNOP will pay US$47000/- for 2MB to sale
> > > > bandwidth,
> > > > > > Now again we won this battle and rates for DNOP and ISP declared
> > same.
> > > > SITA
> > > > > > is paying US$.47000/- 2MB still. Where you live.
> > > > >
> > > > > So we will win again, Inshallah. But first we will have to put up
a
> > case.
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Nasir.
> > > > >
> > > > > > Best regards,
> > > > > > Bhutta,
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > To: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Cc: "Ateeq.M.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "sbhutta"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:40 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am amazed to hear that, PTCL refused to provide a service to
> > you.
> > > > PTA is
> > > > > > > the regulator not PTCL. We should take up this matter with PTA
> > > > > > > immediatelly.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We got our license to sell Internet, and DXX is one way of
> > providing
> > > > > > > Internet to customers, who require 24 hours service.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I would request Bhutta sahib, to take up this matter
immediately
> > with
> > > > PTA,
> > > > > > > so you can provide service to your customer, and we can, to
our
> > future
> > > > > > > customers.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I fail to understand why only having the license is not
enough,
> > and we
> > > > > > > have to provide letters from PTA for everyting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Nasir.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Aly Ramzan wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Nasir Bhai I wish you were right. Recently we tried to get a
DXX
> > > > circuit
> > > > > > > > within Karachi for a corporate client and were refused by
PTCL
> > as
> > > > they
> > > > > > > > interpret our license differently. This reply we got after
we
> > > > applied
> > > > > > > > officially through ISPAK.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > So if someone has any proof or letter from PTA then we can
> > proceed
> > > > > > further
> > > > > > > > with PTCL otherwise the client gets connected through Radio.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Please advice.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Aly Ramzan
> > > > > > > > CubeXS
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > To: "Aly Ramzan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > Cc: "Ateeq.M.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "sbhutta"
> > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
> > > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 3:15 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to PTA
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Aly Ramzan wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think Ateeq Bhai's idea has merit. He is talking about
> > > > providing
> > > > > > > > circuits
> > > > > > > > > > to companies within City without incurring unnecessary
> > expense
> > > > of
> > > > > > paying
> > > > > > > > > > extra 500,000. When there is a province or nationwide
need
> > the
> > > > > > license
> > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > always we upgraded.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What circuits are you talking about ?? Data connectivity
> > between
> > > > > > offices,
> > > > > > > > > or Internet circuits. Because within city, most companies
> > purchase
> > > > > > radios,
> > > > > > > > > and will not get a service for that, and regarding
Internet
> > > > Circuits,
> > > > > > I do
> > > > > > > > > not beleive that EIS cannot provide Internet to any one.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think it is a great idea and should be approved and
> > > > implemented
> > > > > > right
> > > > > > > > > > away. Otherwise ISP's will just be limited to selling
dialup
> > > > > > accounts,
> > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > really is not a good business model.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Aly Ramzan
> > > > > > > > > > CubeXS
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: "A.R. Nasir Qureshi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > To: "Ateeq.M.Khan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > Cc: "sbhutta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 1:43 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: ISPAK: Re: Please make it fine to send to
PTA
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > DNOP provides service of Data Communication between
> > customers.
> > > > The
> > > > > > big
> > > > > > > > > > > business is between customers of different cities,
because
> > > > people
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > > > city can use several other things like Radio etc.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > So DNOP for one city only, or even a province does not
> > makes
> > > > sense
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > me.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Nasir.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, 27 Jun 2001, Ateeq.M.Khan wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Bhutta Sahib
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Why not amend the schedule of fees for DNOP on the
basis
> > of
> > > > > > > > National,
> > > > > > > > > > Provincial and City wise level ?
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Like :
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Nation wide : Rs 1,000,000 inclusive of EIS
> > > > > > > > > > > > Province wide : Rs 600,000 inclusive of EIS
> > > > > > > > > > > > Big City wide : Rs 500,000 inclusive of EIS
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I think it is logical to divide DNOP also because if
you
> > > > > > providing
> > > > > > > > > > service only in a big city then why would you like to
pay
> > extra
> > > > fees
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > PTA
> > > > > > > > > > ?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Please give your feed back. It is high time we get
as
> > much
> > > > > > benefit
> > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > possible.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ateeq Khan
> > > > > > > > > > > > CEO
> > > > > > > > > > > > Gem Net
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
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