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ASF GitHub Bot commented on FLINK-8203:
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Github user twalthr commented on a diff in the pull request:

    https://github.com/apache/flink/pull/5132#discussion_r159844472
  
    --- Diff: 
flink-libraries/flink-table/src/main/scala/org/apache/flink/table/api/TableEnvironment.scala
 ---
    @@ -768,6 +768,39 @@ abstract class TableEnvironment(val config: 
TableConfig) {
         frameworkConfig
       }
     
    +  /**
    +    * Reference input fields by name:
    +    * All fields in the schema definition are referenced by name
    +    * (and possibly renamed using an alias (as). In this mode, fields can 
be reordered and
    +    * projected out. Moreover, we can define proctime and rowtime 
attributes at arbitrary
    +    * positions using arbitrary names (except those that exist in the 
result schema). This mode
    +    * can be used for any input type, including POJOs.
    +    *
    +    * Reference input fields by position:
    +    * Field references must refer to existing fields in the input type 
(except for
    +    * renaming with alias (as)). In this mode, fields are simply renamed. 
Event-time attributes can
    +    * replace the field on their position in the input data (if it is of 
correct type) or be
    +    * appended at the end. Proctime attributes must be appended at the 
end. This mode can only be
    +    * used if the input type has a defined field order (tuple, case class, 
Row) and no of fields
    +    * references a field of the input type.
    +    */
    +  protected def isReferenceByPosition(t: TypeInformation[_], fields: 
Array[Expression]): Boolean = {
    +    if (t.isInstanceOf[PojoTypeInfo[_]]) {
    +      return false
    +    }
    +
    +    val inputNames = t match {
    +      case ct: CompositeType[_] => ct.getFieldNames
    +      case _ => return false // atomic types are references by name
    +    }
    +
    +    // use the by position mode if no of the fields exists in the input
    +    fields.forall {
    +      case UnresolvedFieldReference(name) => !inputNames.contains(name)
    --- End diff --
    
    Yes, that was my main concern behind this. This makes the difference 
between by-ref and by-pos more explicit. In this case I think it is better to 
fail instead of having implicit behavior that a user might not have intended. I 
will add a comment about this in the code.


> Make schema definition of DataStream/DataSet to Table conversion more flexible
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: FLINK-8203
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FLINK-8203
>             Project: Flink
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: Table API & SQL
>    Affects Versions: 1.4.0, 1.5.0
>            Reporter: Fabian Hueske
>            Assignee: Timo Walther
>
> When converting or registering a {{DataStream}} or {{DataSet}} as {{Table}}, 
> the schema of the table can be defined (by default it is extracted from the 
> {{TypeInformation}}.
> The schema needs to be manually specified to select (project) fields, rename 
> fields, or define time attributes. Right now, there are several limitations 
> how the fields can be defined that also depend on the type of the 
> {{DataStream}} / {{DataSet}}. Types with explicit field ordering (e.g., 
> tuples, case classes, Row) require schema definition based on the position of 
> fields. Pojo types which have no fixed order of fields, require to refer to 
> fields by name. Moreover, there are several restrictions on how time 
> attributes can be defined, e.g., event time attribute must replace an 
> existing field or be appended and proctime attributes must be appended.
> I think we can make the schema definition more flexible and provide two modes:
> 1. Reference input fields by name: All fields in the schema definition are 
> referenced by name (and possibly renamed using an alias ({{as}}). In this 
> mode, fields can be reordered and projected out. Moreover, we can define 
> proctime and eventtime attributes at arbitrary positions using arbitrary 
> names (except those that existing the result schema). This mode can be used 
> for any input type, including POJOs. This mode is used if all field 
> references exist in the input type.
> 2. Reference input fields by position: Field references might not refer to 
> existing fields in the input type. In this mode, fields are simply renamed. 
> Event-time attributes can replace the field on their position in the input 
> data (if it is of correct type) or be appended at the end. Proctime 
> attributes must be appended at the end. This mode can only be used if the 
> input type has a defined field order (tuple, case class, Row).
> We need to add more tests the check for all combinations of input types and 
> schema definition modes.



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