https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3959

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--- Comment #236 from Sven AERTS <[email protected]> ---
Aha, finally financial requirement numbers!
Isn't that where the issue also lies: apparently at the moment - there's not
enough programmers around here to program the outline feature?
As i understand, they could be attracted at a small cost.
Instead of swearing to each other and increasing frustration, anybody knows if
there's a tool/space in Bugzilla where programmers can indicate how much money
they need to make themselves free to program this on one hand and allow people
who need a feature to chip in?

I think open source is important, the way I understand things, is that it is
important to the 5 billion or so who do not participate in the formal economy
at the moment to keep things free, and make everyone understand to please
contribute also financially with what they can afford/think is fair.

Keep up the good vibe, all ! It's our world, our future, our dignity ...

(In reply to ther from comment #201)
> (In reply to debrota from comment #199)
> > I see that there is at least one comment arguing against outliner
> > functionality.  My assumption is that its author has simply never used
> > Microsoft Word's outline view functionality, or has only used it for a few
> > moments.  As a person who was actually part of the beta test for the
> > original Microsoft Word (yes, I mean the version that pre-dates Windows),
> > and as a person who has used the Word outliner on almost a daily basis for
> > close to 20 years, I can assure you that there is nothing else like it. 
> > "Mind mapping" is not the same thing at all.
> 
> It is a personal opinion that outline functionality is over-rated; from what
> has been stated, this legacy function is designed to enable an author to
> organise and plan the generation of content.
> 
> There are now numerous, multiple options available for authors to learn new
> working methods. Manufacturers removed the floppy disk drive from their
> products, the world did not stop.
> 
> > I have tried OpenOffice and LibreOffice.  I have looked for products that do
> > what Word does.  Every few years I have made a thorough search.  I have
> > never found a substitute.  And that's why I am still a Word user.
> > I don't use ANY other functionality of Word which is not duplicated in
> > OpenOffice.    If OpenOffice had an outliner to simply do what Word does, I
> > wouldn't need Word, and I wouldn't even need Windows.
> 
> In the free market, m$ provides a legacy function that people value so much
> that they are prepared to do pay for, instead of learning a new method to
> achieve their target objective. The only people demanding outline function
> are those who learnt how to use m$o first. There is nothing to stop m$ fans
> from forming a group and offering a competition for programmers to develop a
> fork of the SO code with this outline function.
> 
> So, a suggestion. Find 1000 people currently paying to use m$o (no idea of
> the cost of m$ licences but for simplicity suggest each group member donates
> US$10). Form a group and offer a competition to programmers to create a fork
> ("outlineoffice"?;) ) with this function. When the fork is made available,
> allow the free-market to operate; people will have a simple option: m$;
> outlineoffice; OO; LO; etc..
> 
> After 10 years or so, it is evident now that the majority of users are not
> interested in outliner. This could be proven as and when outlineoffice
> becomes an available fork.

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