https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=3959

--- Comment #308 from ther <[email protected]> ---
(In reply to Keith Collyer from comment #305)
> Over on the LibreOffice wiki someone has created a page
> (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/WikiAction/history/Outline_view) for
> specifying what an Outliner should do. Unfortunately, it doesn't actually
> have any real content right ow, but maybe that's a place it could be
> developed.
> 

Where it gets developed should be irrelevant; what's more important is that a
defined specification is made to enable the decision to proceed (or not).

> 
> Notice neither Word nor OO has all these features. 
>

With respect, proper user specification is required, analogous to UML. If
features prove to be more powerful than m$, at last we would be seeing a real
desire for other word processors to be more than an m$-clone for those that
want free software without any need to change behaviour or to donate towards
_free_ development.

> away. In Navigator, you wouldn't even see it. This is also why suggestions
> to use a separate outliner miss the point. You use outlining not just to
> create the initial structure, but also to work with it afterwards. And
> suggestions to go back and forth between an outliner and word processor are
> equally silly for reasons thrashed to death above.
>

The xml/dita/latex paradigm; write content once, write presentation/format
elsewhere. As such, what's wrong with multiple windows? Do one thing, well, is
the unix mindset...

> 
> As for Lyx / LaTeX, I would happily use them if I were producing documents
> just for myself. But I work with a large team and documents are produced
> collaboratively. Hell with be at absolute zero before they move away from
> standard word processors. We are supposed to all use OO, but most docs are
> still in Word.

Change is painful, especially from those too old/profitable to change.
Disruptive, innovative technology, is by definition a major threat to the
status quo. Anyway, lyx/latex/subversion is a successful collaboration
environment:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/LaTeX/Collaborative_Writing_of_LaTeX_Documents

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