Le 16/06/2014 09:28, Jeremiah Foster a écrit :
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> That list doesn't seem to get much traffic -- June is half over and
> there have been no posts. Shouldn't mail be sent here to ensure the
> largest number of people see it and move to the other list once there
> is too much traffic on this list?

Sorry the correct list to be used is :
  [email protected]
  https://lists.tizen.org/listinfo/dev
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> > The source used to build the ARM repo in Common are all public.
>  
> There doesn't seem to be an agreed upon approach, or if there is, its
> unclear. Let's take the Renesas request for
> example: https://lists.tizen.org/pipermail/ivi/2014-June/002636.html
> They'd like some help in porting Tizen Common to their hardware, but
> how would one even approach this? It is unclear from Tizen's side in
> contrast to other distros which provide ARM kernels in multiple
> flavors (i.e. hardfloat, softfloat) for multiple machines, (i.e. ARM
> v7 ARM v8, etc.)
So far we have no refrence ARM platform for IVI. The proposal is to add
Renesas as our initial ARM platform and that is what we are working to
acheive with them.
We will add more build option if needed when other reference platform
commit to work for IVI.
>
> If Tizen had a small team that tested Tizen Common against an ARM
> kernel, then they could at least guide on suitable approaches.
> Currently, one would have to;
>
> 1. Identify a kernel that fits Tizen common and your hardware
> 2. Compile that kernel, with toolchain, to test on the hardware
> 3. Build Tizen common from source in a build system suitable and
> widely used for ARM hardware.
That is exaclty what we have agreed to do using the Odroid reference
platform. We are wainting for HW to be delivered to enable the Auto test
on Common for ARM.
>  
>
> Just identifying a kernel is a non-trivial step -- are you going to go
> with a LTSI kernel (hardware in automotive needs long-term support)?
> Are you going to use Linaro's LTS kernel? It may have features you
> need. Are those kernels going to bring in the needed features for
> Tizen common? Has someone identified the needed functionality in the
> kernel that the Tizen common userland will need so that one doesn't
> spend a lot of time wondering why certain features don't work?
That is an other topic which deserve a thread by itself. As Tizen we do
not enforce a specific version of the Kernel but rather the provision
for specific feature (e.g. Smack and SystemD boot). People maintaining
the Kernel of each reference platform have the duty to provide a Kernel
with the needed features. Getting it based on LTSi is certainly an
interresting approach but not a requirement.
>
> There seems to be a lot missing before a suitable public port to ARM
> can be done repeatedly in a manner consistent with production systems.
> Is there a goal to add this type of support? Or is the ARM port of
> Tizen something that the community will fund and build in their spare
> time?
Today we are strongly limited by the lack of publicly available
reference platforms. On Common Odroid should fix the issue by end of
June. For IVI, it will be up to the reference platform providers to fix
the issue of availability.


Dominig

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Dominig ar Foll
Senior Software Architect
Intel Open Source Technology Centre

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