>Unless you're running PCI64 or PCI-X or PCIe, you're running at 33MHz; 
>Standard PCI hasn't changed much over the years.  That 800MHz stuff you
were 
>referring to is system memory speed and has absolutely nothing to do with 
>PCI.

Ahh, well nevermind then. I stand corrected. :)

>I'm running my PVR350 in a Shuttle S55 (I think) X-PC.  It's got a Celeron
> 1.8 in it and that's it -- no HDD, it boots and runs off the network.  

Whoh cool, you can do that?  Forgive me for asking, I'm sure you have a good
reason, but why? I can see having a netboot front end.  Is it that someone
somewhere had a huge underutilized file server?  (as I think of the 2.8TB
server upstairs doing nothing except humming and awaiting a "use"... damn
government budget rules :) )

Ooh idea, not original I'm sure, where can I get a sub sub sub micro sized
netboot dumb terminal (cheap preferably)? I remember seeing one used in our
library that was about the size of a small laptop back when they had hopes
of controlling people's use of the internet. 

But anyways, if you can run a bi-directional video stream over 100mbits/s (I
assume) Ethernet then the pci bus (127Mbytes/s?) should be bored to death.
Which brings be back to my conclusion of DMA sharing deadlock. The
motherboard/kernel getting confused on who is doing what with DMA and
thereby assuming someone still has a lock on the channel and not freeing it.
Until another packet of info knocks it back into order (the packet from ssh)
and things start flowing again.

I remember back from the DOS days you had to set a DMA and IRQ channel
manually.  Does that still hold today?  I know windows (and I suppose Linux
also) has the capability of sharing those DMA and IRQ channels.  In windows
sometimes you have to override the IRQ.  Would manually fiddling with the
DMA's help any?  Or is this obsolete thinking?

Brent

PS.  Whew I wish I could think of a book or something. I sure can write a
lot about nothing :) 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew
Kohlsmith
Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 7:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ivtv-devel] Lockup / System freeze w/ new PVR-350

On February 14, 2005 06:40 am, Brent Kilgore wrote:
> Since you are willing to build a new one, I saw someone mention
> somewhere that most if not all VIA and Intel mobo chipsets are
> supported. YMMV.   If you get in the 1.8GZ range this problem should
> disappear from what I've been told.  Get one of those new fangled 800mzh
> intel bus things :) it should work like a dream.
>
> Overall, what I've seen about our problem, the bus speed seems to be the
> limiting factor.  CPU isn't the problem.  I think my bus is running at
> 66mzh.  Probably anything you can buy now will make a difference

Unless you're running PCI64 or PCI-X or PCIe, you're running at 33MHz; 
Standard PCI hasn't changed much over the years.  That 800MHz stuff you were

referring to is system memory speed and has absolutely nothing to do with 
PCI.

I'm running my PVR350 in a Shuttle S55 (I think) X-PC.  It's got a Celeron
1.8 
in it and that's it -- no HDD, it boots and runs off the network.  There are

people running PVR350s in MUCH lower-end hardware without difficulty so I 
really doubt it the system.  When I play back or record with the thing I'm
at 
0% CPU usage, which was the entire point of the card.

-A.


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