Some of the channels really improved when I turned off the amp. The  
distortion lines disappeared, and the picture was clear.  Other  
channels became snowy, ant it was apparent that the signal was too  
weak. Is there a way to turn on and off the amp during runtime, or do  
I have to recompile the kernel?

I got the impression that the PQ was better under windows from the  
other posts, but I might be wrong. I don't have a windows box with a  
cable signal close to test with.

When you say it's a hardware issue, do you mean that my unit is  
broken or it's a general problem with the card?

- Haavar

On Dec 3, 2006, at 1:18 AM, Hans Verkuil wrote:

> On Sunday 03 December 2006 04:19, Haavar Valeur wrote:
>> Here you go. Thanks for looking into this.
>
> OK, thanks. This confirms that it isn't a driver issue but hardware.
> This Samsung tuner is rather finicky regarding strong signals.
>
> Some tests were done previously to see if turning off the tuner's
> amplifier would solve the bad channels due to a strong signal but  
> those
> tests had no or only marginal results. If that's different for you  
> then
> let me know.
>
>       Hans
>
>>
>> ivtv:  ==================== START INIT IVTV ====================
>> ivtv:  version 0.8.1 (tagged release) loading
>> ivtv:  Linux version: 2.6.18-gentoo-r3 mod_unload 586 gcc-4.1
>> ivtv:  In case of problems please include the debug info between
>> ivtv:  the START INIT IVTV and END INIT IVTV lines, along with
>> ivtv:  any module options, when mailing the ivtv-users mailinglist.
>> ivtv0: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
>> ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:08.0[A] -> GSI 17 (level, low) -> IRQ 21
>> ivtv0: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
>> Zapata Telephony Interface Registered on major 196
>> Zaptel Version: 1.2.9.1 Echo Canceller: KB1
>> ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:08.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 22
>> Failed to initailize DAA, giving up...
>> wcfxo: probe of 0000:00:08.0 failed with error -5
>> nvidia: module license 'NVIDIA' taints kernel.
>> Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing
>> disabled
>> serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
>> serial8250: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
>> 00:09: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
>> 00:0a: ttyS1 at I/O 0x2f8 (irq = 3) is a 16550A
>> ivtv0: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
>> wm8775 0-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
>> tuner 0-0060: TEA5767 detected.
>> tuner 0-0060: chip found @ 0xc0 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
>> tuner 0-0060: type set to 62 (Philips TEA5767HN FM Radio)
>> tuner 0-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
>> cx25840 0-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #0)
>> usbcore: registered new driver hiddev
>> hiddev96: USB HID v1.10 Device [APC Back-UPS ES 500 FW:801.e6.D USB
>> FW:e6] on usb-0000:00:10.1-2
>> usbcore: registered new driver usbhid
>> drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver
>> cx25840 0-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (16382 bytes)
>> tveeprom 0-0050: Hauppauge model 23552, rev D587, serial# 8857532
>> tveeprom 0-0050: tuner model is Samsung TCPN 2121P30A (idx 87, type
>> 70) tveeprom 0-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
>> tveeprom 0-0050: second tuner model is Philips TEA5768HL FM Radio
>> (idx 101, type 62)
>> tveeprom 0-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
>> tveeprom 0-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
>> tveeprom 0-0050: has radio, has no IR remote
>> ivtv0: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1)
>> ivtv0: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
>> ivtv0: Registered device video0 for encoder MPEG
>> ivtv0: Registered device video32 for encoder YUV
>> ivtv0: Registered device vbi0 for encoder VBI
>> ivtv0: Registered device video24 for encoder PCM audio
>> ivtv0: Registered device radio0 for encoder radio
>> tuner 0-0061: type set to 70 (Samsung TCPN 2121P30A)
>> ivtv0: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #1), card #0
>> ivtv:  ======================  NEXT CARD  ======================
>> ivtv1: Autodetected Hauppauge card (cx23416 based)
>> ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:02:09.0[A] -> GSI 18 (level, low) -> IRQ 17
>> ivtv1: Unreasonably low latency timer, setting to 64 (was 32)
>> ivtv1: loaded v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw firmware (262144 bytes)
>> wm8775 1-001b: chip found @ 0x36 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
>> tuner 1-0061: chip found @ 0xc2 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
>> cx25840 1-0044: cx25843-23 found @ 0x88 (ivtv i2c driver #1)
>> cx25840 1-0044: loaded v4l-cx25840.fw firmware (16382 bytes)
>> tveeprom 1-0050: Hauppauge model 23552, rev D587, serial# 8857532
>> tveeprom 1-0050: tuner model is Samsung TCPN 2121P30A (idx 87, type
>> 70) tveeprom 1-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
>> tveeprom 1-0050: second tuner model is Philips TEA5768HL FM Radio
>> (idx 101, type 62)
>> tveeprom 1-0050: audio processor is CX25843 (idx 37)
>> tveeprom 1-0050: decoder processor is CX25843 (idx 30)
>> tveeprom 1-0050: has radio, has no IR remote
>> ivtv1: Correcting tveeprom data: no radio present on second unit
>> ivtv1: Autodetected WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2)
>> ivtv1: Encoder revision: 0x02050032
>> ivtv1: Registered device video1 for encoder MPEG
>> ivtv1: Registered device video33 for encoder YUV
>> ivtv1: Registered device vbi1 for encoder VBI
>> ivtv1: Registered device video25 for encoder PCM audio
>> tuner 1-0061: type set to 70 (Samsung TCPN 2121P30A)
>> ivtv1: Initialized WinTV PVR 500 (unit #2), card #1
>> ivtv:  ====================  END INIT IVTV  ====================
>>
>> - Haavar
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2006, at 2:38 PM, Hans Verkuil wrote:
>>> Please post the INIT IVTV messages your kernel log. There can be
>>> various
>>> reasons for this but I need that info first.
>>>
>>>     Hans
>>>
>>> On Saturday 02 December 2006 23:30, Haavar Valeur wrote:
>>>> I got a PVR-500, and I'm having some problems with the picture
>>>> quality. I think my signal is pretty strong from the cable
>>>> provider. When I turn off the internal amplifier on the card (in
>>>> the kernel), I get a snowy picture on some channels and a pretty
>>>> good on others. When I leave the amp on, I get distortion lines on
>>>> some channels others are fine. It seems to me the problem could be
>>>> solved here, but there is a lot of tuning  and recompiling the
>>>> kernel to be done.
>>>>
>>>> Are  you sure that some cards are more sensitive than others, and
>>>> it's not that peoples cable signal is different? If there is a
>>>> chance I could get a better card, I could return this and get
>>>> another one.
>>>>
>>>> I'm getting the best PQ on most channels by padding the cable with
>>>> a 3 way slitter and leaving the internal amp on (as it is in the
>>>> 2.6.18 kernel). I padded my signal by connecting my cable from the
>>>> wall into the output of a 3 way splitter and connected my computer
>>>> to another output (nothing on the input). I've ordered actual
>>>> signal pads (attenuators) and a ground breaker to see if this
>>>> helps.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have a tip how to get a better PQ with this card?
>>>> Is there any tuning that can be done via the driver to improve the
>>>> signal? Like turning on or off the amp.
>>>>
>>>> - Haavar
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 28, 2006, at 5:28 AM, John Drescher wrote:
>>>>> I currently have a PVR-150  with ivtv-0.8.1 and kernel-2.6.18 and
>>>>> I'm happy with the quality of the picture. I'm thinking about
>>>>> returning the PVR-150 and getting a PVR-500 instead of getting a
>>>>> second PVR-150 to save a PCI slot. Is the difference in quality
>>>>> between the cards still noticeable?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you are unlucky and buy a card that does not like a strong
>>>>> signal the answer is yes. There is no
>>>>> quality difference in patched kernels. The main difference is the
>>>>> patch is in 2.6.18 kernels so you
>>>>> automatically get it with ivtv-0.8.X and not applied in lower
>>>>> versions of the kernel.
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