On Saturday 30 December 2006 09:28, Luke McKee wrote:
> Thanks for all your feedback about the PVR-350 and using it in a PAL
> country.
>
> I have seem some posts about people in the USA trying to record games
> they play from PAL / PAL-60 with the ivtv card. I did actually have
> the card working in one instance, but since changing the kernel it's
> stuffed up, it's probably a problem with Andrew Morton's kernel
> patchset. I'll try and re-wire my IDE cables, or obtain get the
> promise PATA backport branch of libata and merge it into stable
> kernel sources.

PAL-60 works fine with a saa7114/5 chip but is broken for the cx2584x 
chip. The fix for that should appear in one of the 2.6.19 dot releases 
(and probably in the next 2.6.20 release candidate). Note that all 
other PAL standards work OK for all card models.

>
> When I had it working the MSP44XX chip detected PAL audio and worked.
> So with the modular V4L linux drivers are all aware of the video
> standard.
>
> The avenue I'm going to take is to use an external tuner device (a
> DVD recorder) which can output in NTSC if I run into any problems
> using PAL.

If the input is S-Video/Composite then PAL input will work provided you 
add the 'pal=b' option to the ivtv module in modprobe.conf. If you want 
to use the antenna as input then it is much simpler to buy a new card 
or an external PAL tuner rather than to start soldering. Unless you 
like doing that and enjoy the challenge of course.

>
> I've got a low end soldering solution, but if I was going to get a
> non static SMT soldering device with and an anti-ESD desk pad, could
> I change the tuner on the card?
>
> They only have a few inputs, so if I check the datasheets it's a can
> do job right? As for the video-eeprom, arn't I2C devices
> re-programmerable without removing them? Is it really necessary to
> reprogram the EEPROM if you only change the tuner? (as it can be
> overridden  on the command line).

There is no need to reprogram the eeprom.

> Also with the video output (haven't tested it yet - still need the
> pinout for the cable!), can the SAA7XXX chip output a PAL signal or
> does it rely on PAL initialized firmware too?

If you load ivtv with a pal=b option, then the output will also be PAL. 
It doesn't rely on any firmware.

Regards,

        Hans

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