On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 14:27 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> Tony writes:
> 
> > I installed Mplayer from Yum.
> 
> Note how others reply by quoting an excerpt from the previous message, 
> followed by their comments, so the end result reads like a normal 
> back-and-forth conversation.  But when someone opens your message and begin 
> reading it, the first thing they see is a proclamation "I installed Mplayer 
> from Yum".  Well, good for you, then.  Enjoy your mplayer.
> 
> Nobody would really have any idea what you're talking about, until they 
> scroll to the very end of your reply, and read backwards, and figure out 
> what your problem is.
> 
> This is called "top-posting", and is considered rather rude, and it's very 
> unlikely that people will want to continue to help you, if they cannot open 
> your message, begin reading, and immediately understand the subject matter. 
> Please don't do it again.
> 
> Now, having gotten that out of the way: patch files are applied to the 
> source code directly, then the entire application gets rebuilt.  If you do 
> not know how to do that, this is not something that can be explained in one 
> or two paragraphs.  The only thing you can do is forward the patch to 
> mplayer's maintainers, and ask them to apply it, then wait for the updated 
> mplayer package to show up in livna, in a couple of months, or so.
> 
> > On Sat, 2007-02-24 at 11:51 -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote:
> >> Tony writes:
> >> 
> >> > Since I've never had to do this before, how would one go about applying
> >> > this on an FC6 x86-64 system? I've never applied a patch before, first
> >> > time so I want to make sure I do this right. This was under the 
> >> > /ivtv-0.10.0/misc directory.
> >> 
> >> Extract the mplayer source.  Change to the top of mplayer's source 
> >> directory, and type:
> >> 
> >> patch -p1 </path/to/ivtv-0.10/misc/MPlayer-1.0pre7try2-ivtvosd.diff
> >> 
Sam, thanks for your "Kind Words". I was not aware of any set standard
when replying to this discussion when reviewing postings dating back to
October last year. Thanks for the advice - Now that I have that said.

Your advice in response to my question confirmed my initial thoughts
however I only wanted clarification. Why you didn't just reply with your
last 3 lines above in the first place? Yes I do know how to install from
source however I prefer to use a nice tool provided by my Distro of
choice called "Yum" whenever possible for obvious reasons. I've never
had the need until now to apply a patch - hence my question for
clarification of this process since most documentation only wants to
explain the patch process history and justification for it's existence.
If there had been an example line of use, (as you posted above); I
believe I could have managed.

If Linux is to ever manifest to the expectations the community desires,
it most certainly will come from cooperation, tolerance and education of
all concerned. Did you have a bad day?

Hans, congratulations on your success with the future kernel release and
I for one appreciate your work and everyone else's that's involved with
this project. Thank You!

Tony




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