On 06/04/10 21:42, Andy Walls wrote:
> On Tue, 2010-06-01 at 20:37 -0400, Dale Pontius wrote:
>> On 05/30/10 15:16, Andy Walls wrote:
>>> On Sun, 2010-05-30 at 10:56 -0400, Dale Pontius wrote: 
>>>> Last week the audio died on one of my hvr-1600s.  I'm limping along on
>>>> one at the moment, but don't plan to continue that way.
>>>>
>>>> Time to start looking for a replacement?  Or is there something I can do
>>>> to bring back the sound?
>>>
>>> Maybe.
>>>
>>> Does the audio line input still work for sound?
>>>
>>> When tuned to a known good channel, what does v4l2-ctl --log-status show
>>> for the detected Audio Standard on each HVR-1600?
>>>
>> For the good card - /dev/video1 :
>>
>> Status Log:
>>
>>    cx18-1: =================  START STATUS CARD #1  =================
>>    cx18-1: Version: 1.4.0  Card: Hauppauge HVR-1600
>>    tveeprom 4-0050: Hauppauge model 74041, rev C6B2, serial# 3334244
>>    tveeprom 4-0050: MAC address is 00:0d:fe:32:e0:64
>>    tveeprom 4-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 50)
>>    tveeprom 4-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
>>    tveeprom 4-0050: audio processor is CX23418 (idx 38)
>>    tveeprom 4-0050: decoder processor is CX23418 (idx 31)
>>    tveeprom 4-0050: has no radio, has IR receiver, has IR transmitter
>>    cx18-1 843: Video signal:              present
>>    cx18-1 843: Detected format:           NTSC-M
>>    cx18-1 843: Specified standard:        NTSC-M
>>    cx18-1 843: Specified video input:     Composite 7
>>    cx18-1 843: Specified audioclock freq: 48000 Hz
>>    cx18-1 843: Detected audio mode:       stereo
>>    cx18-1 843: Detected audio standard:   BTSC
>>    cx18-1 843: Audio muted:               no
>>    cx18-1 843: Audio microcontroller:     running
>>    cx18-1 843: Configured audio standard: automatic detection
>>    cx18-1 843: Configured audio system:   BTSC
>>    cx18-1 843: Specified audio input:     Tuner (In8)
>>    cx18-1 843: Preferred audio mode:      stereo
>>    cx18-1 gpio-reset-ctrl: GPIO:  direction 0x00003001, value 0x00003001
>>    tuner 5-0061: Tuner mode:      analog TV
>>    tuner 5-0061: Frequency:       499.25 MHz
>>    tuner 5-0061: Standard:        0x0000b000
>>    cs5345 4-004c: Input:  1
>>    cs5345 4-004c: Volume: 0 dB
>>    cx18-1: Video Input: Tuner 1
>>    cx18-1: Audio Input: Tuner 1
>>    cx18-1: GPIO:  direction 0x00003001, value 0x00003001
>>    cx18-1: Tuner: TV
>>    cx18-1: Stream: MPEG-2 Program Stream
>>    cx18-1: VBI Format: No VBI
>>    cx18-1: Video:  720x480, 30 fps
>>    cx18-1: Video:  MPEG-2, 4x3, Variable Bitrate, 4500000, Peak 6000000
>>    cx18-1: Video:  GOP Size 15, 2 B-Frames, GOP Closure
>>    cx18-1: Audio:  48 kHz, MPEG-1/2 Layer II, 384 kbps, Stereo, No
>> Emphasis, No CRC
>>    cx18-1: Spatial Filter:  Manual, Luma 1D Horizontal, Chroma 1D
>> Horizontal, 0
>>    cx18-1: Temporal Filter: Manual, 8
>>    cx18-1: Median Filter:   Off, Luma [0, 255], Chroma [0, 255]
>>    cx18-1: Status flags: 0x00200001
>>    cx18-1: Stream encoder MPEG: status 0x0000, 0% of 2048 KiB (64
>> buffers) in use
>>    cx18-1: Stream encoder YUV: status 0x0000, 0% of 2025 KiB (20
>> buffers) in use
>>    cx18-1: Stream encoder VBI: status 0x0000, 0% of 1015 KiB (20
>> buffers) in use
>>    cx18-1: Stream encoder PCM audio: status 0x0000, 0% of 1024 KiB (256
>> buffers) in use
>>    cx18-1: Read MPEG/VBI: 2333106176/0 bytes
>>    cx18-1: ==================  END STATUS CARD #1  ==================
>>
>> and for the bad card - /dev/video0 :
>>
>> Status Log:
>>
>>    cx18-0: =================  START STATUS CARD #0  =================
>>    cx18-0: Version: 1.4.0  Card: Hauppauge HVR-1600
>>    tveeprom 2-0050: Hauppauge model 74041, rev C6B2, serial# 3335430
>>    tveeprom 2-0050: MAC address is 00:0d:fe:32:e5:06
>>    tveeprom 2-0050: tuner model is TCL M2523_5N_E (idx 112, type 50)
>>    tveeprom 2-0050: TV standards NTSC(M) (eeprom 0x08)
>>    tveeprom 2-0050: audio processor is CX23418 (idx 38)
>>    tveeprom 2-0050: decoder processor is CX23418 (idx 31)
>>    tveeprom 2-0050: has no radio, has IR receiver, has IR transmitter
>>    cx18-0 843: Video signal:              present
>>    cx18-0 843: Detected format:           NTSC-M
>>    cx18-0 843: Specified standard:        NTSC-M
>>    cx18-0 843: Specified video input:     Composite 7
>>    cx18-0 843: Specified audioclock freq: 48000 Hz
>>    cx18-0 843: Detected audio mode:       mono
>>    cx18-0 843: Detected audio standard:   no detected audio standard
>                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>                                                 |
> And this is what makes me pull my hair out. ----+
> 
> Same card, same chipset, same firmware image, in the same PC and mobo,
> same TV channel with the same RF signal, same analog tuner assembly, and
> one '843 core detects the audio standard and the other '843 core
> doesn't. :P
> 
> If you have controlled the signal levels properly and used good cable
> and grounding, the difference has to be in the analog tuner can.  Either
> it has gone bad, or it is picking up a lot of noise from somewhere.
> 
> Come to think of it, a bad analog tuner assembly could explain the red
> screen.
> 
> Anyway, if *everthing* is the same, and one card works and one card
> doesn't, there's nothing to be done in software - except implement
> workaround that may not work.  I *speculate* that you have a dying card.
> 
A few months back, I installed a new distribution amp, and at the same
time rebuilt all of the cables in RG6-quad with compression fittings,
etc.  One test I could try is swapping the inputs on the two cards, to
see if any symptoms move.  I tend to agree about the dying card.  All
has been happy for many months after the input rebuild, and I haven't
touched anything significant lately.  MythTV was upgraded to 0.22 in
March, and kernel and cx-18 drivers are both dated Feb 20.

Incidentally, on the last reboot audio came back on the card, and has
stayed back.  I still haven't re-enabled it in MythTV, but keep checking
it every few days to make sure it hasn't gone bad, again.  I have a
conflict on June 18, and if it's still working the, I'll re-enable it.

By then I may also have stuff around the house under control, and it'll
be time to take this machine down.  Got a new CPU a while back - about
20% speed boost, for $5.00 at a flea market, adding another Gig of DRAM
from a different machine I'm decommissioning - and I'll remove,
dust-out, and reseat both capture cards.

I get more fearful about semiconductors and their longevity every
generation.  I'm working in 32nM these days - hard to believe,
considering I started by testing 4-mask metal gate over 30 years ago.

Thanks,
Dale Pontius

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