Hi Sunish,

Those are cheap copies which don't work on all available hardware.

Vasi(funlw65)

On Jul 26, 12:03 pm, Sunish Issac <[email protected]> wrote:
> Usb to serial cables are available here in India for approx 4.5USD.
>
> I don't why ftdi is charging 20$ ?
>
> Sunish
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Sebastien Lelong <
>
> [email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Joep,
>
> > Initially, I wanted to let some space to solder/glue/... a module like this
> > one:
>
> >  -
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/FTDI-UM232R-module-USB-serial-UART-converter-AVR-...
> >  -http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=198
> >  -http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=8165
> >  -http://www.sparkfun.com/commerce/product_info.php?products_id=718
> >  -
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/PC-USB-RS232-Module-Based-TTL-FTDI-FT232BM-BL-Chi...
>
> > They cost basically the price of your suggested FTDI cable, but may easier
> > to find ?
>
> > This module costs 5$ on ebay, male connector (weird):
>
> >  -
> >http://cgi.ebay.com/USB-RS232-Module-Board-CP2102-Breakout-/130337003...
>
> > I first thought FTDI cable was too much expensive, but they compare quite
> > well with these modules (20$ / cable, . Users could still use their own
> > serial module with adaptations if needed. Do you think all FTDI cable have
> > the same pinout ?
>
> > Cheers,
> > Seb
>
> > 2010/7/24 Joep Suijs <[email protected]>
>
> >> If it is the ftdi chip that you want, take an 'ftdi cable'
> >>http://www.ftdichip.comalem/Products/EvaluationKits/TTL-232R.htm<http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/EvaluationKits/TTL-232R.htm>
>
> >> As i suggested before, change the jaluino serial connector pinout to
> >> match this cable is a good idea in any case.
> >> Joep
>
> >> 2010/7/24 funlw65 <[email protected]>:
> >> > As I imagined for the first time, when it was only about the
> >> > microcontroller on a card inserted in ATmega328 socket, if the PIC is
> >> > under the card, then you can insert a shield. But as things turned
> >> > out, I think that Sebastien wants only to take advantage from the FTDI
> >> > chip on the Arduino board and use it as development board, with
> >> > wires...
> >> > Or maybe he will use SMD components...
>
> >> > Another ideea is to use a flexible "board"... but a proper name will
> >> > be "Squid" :P
>
> >> > Vasi(funlw65)
>
> >> > On Jul 24, 9:23 am, Joep Suijs <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> Hi Seb,
>
> >> >> Just wondering, (how) can you use shields on a arduino board with the
> >> >> cuckoo installed?
>
> >> >> Joep
>
> >> >> 2010/7/23 Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>:
>
> >> >> > Hi guys,
>
> >> >> > One step further... I've created a first schematic for Jaluino
> >> Cuckoo,
> >> >> > attached as PNG file:
> >> >> >   - I've copied ISCP part from Jaluino Medium
> >> >> > (
> >>http://justanotherlanguage.org/sites/default/files/jaluino_medium_v13...
> >> ).
> >> >> >   - Xtal option: with 2 jumpers, user can decide to use Arduino Xtal
> >> >> > (16MHz), Cuckoo's onboard Xtal (20MHz), or no Xtal at all for
> >> internal
> >> >> > clock, low power usage (without being able to use pins though). Note
> >> with
> >> >> > 18f25K22, using Arduino's Xtal gives the highest performance with x4
> >> PLL
> >> >> > (not possible with 20MHz)
> >> >> >   - I added two I²C resistor, as an option. I wasn't able to find
> >> them on
> >> >> > Arduino schematic to map them
> >> >> > (http://arduino.cc/en/uploads/Main/arduino-duemilanove-schematic.pdf).
> >> I
> >> >> > think it can be convenient to select I²C master/slave this way.
> >> >> >   - There's a RESET push button on Cuckoo's board, in addition to the
> >> one
> >> >> > found on Arduino. This could be interesting when using Cuckoo as a
> >> >> > standalone board, as Mike suggested, but this would need to act on
> >> two
> >> >> > buttons to reset it when plugged on Arduino... Maybe I'll add a
> >> jumper to
> >> >> > select which Reset to use. I *think* (means I'm not sure) Arduino's
> >> Reset
> >> >> > schematic should work with Cuckoo.
>
> >> >> > Before I start to pull my hair with the PCB, do you any comments,
> >> >> > suggestions, ... ?
> >> >> > Cheers
> >> >> > Seb
> >> >> > 2010/7/16 Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
>
> >> >> >> Hi guys, Vasi,
> >> >> >> Indeed pin mapping wasn't easy. Despite the great number of feature
> >> coming
> >> >> >> with 18f25K22, I had to make compromise and add limitations...
> >> >> >> See:
> >>http://justanotherlanguage.org/content/jaluino/blog/cuckoo-meets-arduino
> >> >> >> Vasi, I know this is quite horrible to read :) but I also know
> >> you've been
> >> >> >> there before, I would certainly appreciate if you could check this
> >> mapping
> >> >> >> and tell me what you're thinking about it. I tried to log my
> >> thoughts
> >> >> >> explaining my choices, I hope you can follow them !
>
> >> >> >> Cheers,
> >> >> >> Seb
>
> >> >> >> 2010/7/12 funlw65 <[email protected]>
>
> >> >> >>> Sebastien,
> >> >> >>> If you succeed in mapping this board, then an Arduino clone will be
> >> >> >>> far easier for you. I can assure you!
>
> >> >> >>> Vasi()funlw65
>
> >> >> >>> On Jul 12, 5:45 pm, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
> >> >> >>> wrote:
> >> >> >>> > Hi guys,
>
> >> >> >>> > As a log, summary and some sort of specification requirements
> >> (say it
> >> >> >>> > fast),
> >> >> >>> > here's a page I've written, hopefully describing what I have in
> >> mind.
>
> >>http://justanotherlanguage.org/content/jaluino/blog/jaluino-cuckoo
>
> >> >> >>> > Feel free to comment...
>
> >> >> >>> > Cheers,
> >> >> >>> > Seb
>
> >> >> >>> > 2010/7/6 Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
>
> >> >> >>> > > Hi guys,
>
> >> >> >>> > > 2010/7/5 m...@watty <[email protected]>
>
> >> >> >>> > >> 44 pin or 64pin 18F67J50 SMD with option for  USB mini or
> >> micro
>
> >> >> >>> > > connector on cuckoo board
>
> >> >> >>> > > Such a board would act as an extension of existing Arduino, but
> >> I
> >> >> >>> > > doubt it
> >> >> >>> > > can be done without SMD components, right ?
>
> >> >> >>> > >> 6 pin ICSP on cuckoo too
>
> >> >> >>> > > this seems mandatory, indeed, even if it takes room.
>
> >> >> >>> > >> option for on board crystal.
>
> >> >> >>> > > What about selecting onboard Xtal (16MHz for Arduino 2009) or
> >> >> >>> > > internal
> >> >> >>> > > clock ? I could add another Xtal on Cuckoo board but I have
> >> doubts
> >> >> >>> > > about
> >> >> >>> > > room...
>
> >> >> >>> > >> option for 5V to 3V regulator
>
> >> >> >>> > > Do you mean to power the PIC ?
>
> >> >> >>> > >> Can be used in Arduino or as standalone module.
>
> >> >> >>> > > That would be great, something like
> >> >> >>> > >http://www.solarbotics.com/products/kardw/.
>
> >> >> >>> > > About PIC selection, I've found 18f26k22 as an interesting
> >> candidate:
> >> >> >>> > >   - 64KB memory
> >> >> >>> > >   - 2 * USART
> >> >> >>> > >   - I2C *and* SPI (2 * MSSP)
> >> >> >>> > >   - independant analog pins, easier to map pins
> >> >> >>> > >   - clock up to 64MHz, 16MIPS
> >> >> >>> > >   - 3 external interupts
> >> >> >>> > >   - 2 * PWM output
>
> >> >> >>> > > but not in production... Little brother 18f25k22 can be
> >> sampled, but
> >> >> >>> > > "only"
> >> >> >>> > > have 32KB memory. I'll try this one I guess. On the other side
> >> of the
> >> >> >>> > > nest,
> >> >> >>> > > Arduino provides:
> >> >> >>> > >   - 1 USART
> >> >> >>> > >   - 2 external interupts
> >> >> >>> > >   - SPI
> >> >> >>> > >   - I2C within ADC pins
> >> >> >>> > >   - 6 PWM channels (this can't be defeated...)
>
> >> >> >>> > > This can be cuckooed by 18f25k22 :)
>
> >>http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/Devices.aspx?dDocName=en546240
>
> >> >> >>> > > Cheers (Groeten)
> >> >> >>> > > Seb
>
> >> >> >>> > >> On Jul 5, 4:29 pm, Sebastien Lelong <
> >> [email protected]>
> >> >> >>> > >> wrote:
> >> >> >>> > >> > Hi guys,
>
> >> >> >>> > >> > The Cuckoos are a bird family, known to be brood parasite.
> >> Mother
> >> >> >>> > >> > Cuckoo
> >> >> >>> > >> > lays its eggs on other bird's nest. Baby Cuckoo will be
> >> brooded
> >> >> >>> > >> > and when
> >> >> >>> > >> > hatched, will clear the nest from other eggs. It will be
> >> fed, for
> >> >> >>> > >> > free,
> >> >> >>> > >> > until it often reaches  ten times the size of its parents
> >> (which
> >> >> >>> > >> > seem
> >> >> >>> > >> dumb
> >> >> >>> > >> > enough not to mention the subterfuge).
>
> >> >> >>> > >> > This gave me an idea for another Jaluino family. Codename:
> >> Jaluino
> >> >> >>> > >> Cuckoo !
>
> >> >> >>> > >> > The idea is to unplug ATMega168 from Arduino Duemilanove and
> >> plug
> >> >> >>> > >> > a
> >> >> >>> > >> > Microchip PIC instead. A small PCB would probably needed to
> >> map
> >> >> >>> > >> > pins. I
> >> >> >>> > >> had
> >> >> >>> > >> > a look potentials PICs, like 18F2680, 18F2620. 18F2550 isn't
> >> that
> >> >> >>> > >> > useful
> >> >> >>> > >> as
> >> >> >>> > >> > there's no USB on Arduino Duemilanove. It would need UART,
> >> I²C,
> >> >> >>> > >> > PWM, ADC
> >> >> >>> > >> > (preferably with independent pin), and should run as fast as
> >> >> >>> > >> > possible
> >> >> >>> > >> with a
> >> >> >>> > >> > 16MHz externak Xtal.
>
> >> >> >>> > >> > Does it sound doable ? Suggestions ? Warnings ?
>
> >> >> >>> > >> > Cheers,
> >> >> >>> > >> > Seb
> >> >> >>> > >> > --
> >> >> >>> > >> > Sébastien Lelonghttp://www.sirloon.nethttp://sirbot.org
>
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