If it is the ftdi chip that you want, take an 'ftdi cable'
http://www.ftdichip.com/Products/EvaluationKits/TTL-232R.htm
As i suggested before, change the jaluino serial connector pinout to
match this cable is a good idea in any case.
Joep


2010/7/24 funlw65 <[email protected]>:
> As I imagined for the first time, when it was only about the
> microcontroller on a card inserted in ATmega328 socket, if the PIC is
> under the card, then you can insert a shield. But as things turned
> out, I think that Sebastien wants only to take advantage from the FTDI
> chip on the Arduino board and use it as development board, with
> wires...
> Or maybe he will use SMD components...
>
> Another ideea is to use a flexible "board"... but a proper name will
> be "Squid" :P
>
> Vasi(funlw65)
>
> On Jul 24, 9:23 am, Joep Suijs <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Hi Seb,
>>
>> Just wondering, (how) can you use shields on a arduino board with the
>> cuckoo installed?
>>
>> Joep
>>
>> 2010/7/23 Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>:
>>
>> > Hi guys,
>>
>> > One step further... I've created a first schematic for Jaluino Cuckoo,
>> > attached as PNG file:
>> >   - I've copied ISCP part from Jaluino Medium
>> > (http://justanotherlanguage.org/sites/default/files/jaluino_medium_v13...).
>> >   - Xtal option: with 2 jumpers, user can decide to use Arduino Xtal
>> > (16MHz), Cuckoo's onboard Xtal (20MHz), or no Xtal at all for internal
>> > clock, low power usage (without being able to use pins though). Note with
>> > 18f25K22, using Arduino's Xtal gives the highest performance with x4 PLL
>> > (not possible with 20MHz)
>> >   - I added two I²C resistor, as an option. I wasn't able to find them on
>> > Arduino schematic to map them
>> > (http://arduino.cc/en/uploads/Main/arduino-duemilanove-schematic.pdf). I
>> > think it can be convenient to select I²C master/slave this way.
>> >   - There's a RESET push button on Cuckoo's board, in addition to the one
>> > found on Arduino. This could be interesting when using Cuckoo as a
>> > standalone board, as Mike suggested, but this would need to act on two
>> > buttons to reset it when plugged on Arduino... Maybe I'll add a jumper to
>> > select which Reset to use. I *think* (means I'm not sure) Arduino's Reset
>> > schematic should work with Cuckoo.
>>
>> > Before I start to pull my hair with the PCB, do you any comments,
>> > suggestions, ... ?
>> > Cheers
>> > Seb
>> > 2010/7/16 Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
>>
>> >> Hi guys, Vasi,
>> >> Indeed pin mapping wasn't easy. Despite the great number of feature coming
>> >> with 18f25K22, I had to make compromise and add limitations...
>> >> See: http://justanotherlanguage.org/content/jaluino/blog/cuckoo-meets-arduino
>> >> Vasi, I know this is quite horrible to read :) but I also know you've been
>> >> there before, I would certainly appreciate if you could check this mapping
>> >> and tell me what you're thinking about it. I tried to log my thoughts
>> >> explaining my choices, I hope you can follow them !
>>
>> >> Cheers,
>> >> Seb
>>
>> >> 2010/7/12 funlw65 <[email protected]>
>>
>> >>> Sebastien,
>> >>> If you succeed in mapping this board, then an Arduino clone will be
>> >>> far easier for you. I can assure you!
>>
>> >>> Vasi()funlw65
>>
>> >>> On Jul 12, 5:45 pm, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>> > Hi guys,
>>
>> >>> > As a log, summary and some sort of specification requirements (say it
>> >>> > fast),
>> >>> > here's a page I've written, hopefully describing what I have in mind.
>>
>> >>> >    http://justanotherlanguage.org/content/jaluino/blog/jaluino-cuckoo
>>
>> >>> > Feel free to comment...
>>
>> >>> > Cheers,
>> >>> > Seb
>>
>> >>> > 2010/7/6 Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
>>
>> >>> > > Hi guys,
>>
>> >>> > > 2010/7/5 m...@watty <[email protected]>
>>
>> >>> > >> 44 pin or 64pin 18F67J50 SMD with option for  USB mini or micro
>>
>> >>> > > connector on cuckoo board
>>
>> >>> > > Such a board would act as an extension of existing Arduino, but I
>> >>> > > doubt it
>> >>> > > can be done without SMD components, right ?
>>
>> >>> > >> 6 pin ICSP on cuckoo too
>>
>> >>> > > this seems mandatory, indeed, even if it takes room.
>>
>> >>> > >> option for on board crystal.
>>
>> >>> > > What about selecting onboard Xtal (16MHz for Arduino 2009) or
>> >>> > > internal
>> >>> > > clock ? I could add another Xtal on Cuckoo board but I have doubts
>> >>> > > about
>> >>> > > room...
>>
>> >>> > >> option for 5V to 3V regulator
>>
>> >>> > > Do you mean to power the PIC ?
>>
>> >>> > >> Can be used in Arduino or as standalone module.
>>
>> >>> > > That would be great, something like
>> >>> > >http://www.solarbotics.com/products/kardw/.
>>
>> >>> > > About PIC selection, I've found 18f26k22 as an interesting candidate:
>> >>> > >   - 64KB memory
>> >>> > >   - 2 * USART
>> >>> > >   - I2C *and* SPI (2 * MSSP)
>> >>> > >   - independant analog pins, easier to map pins
>> >>> > >   - clock up to 64MHz, 16MIPS
>> >>> > >   - 3 external interupts
>> >>> > >   - 2 * PWM output
>>
>> >>> > > but not in production... Little brother 18f25k22 can be sampled, but
>> >>> > > "only"
>> >>> > > have 32KB memory. I'll try this one I guess. On the other side of the
>> >>> > > nest,
>> >>> > > Arduino provides:
>> >>> > >   - 1 USART
>> >>> > >   - 2 external interupts
>> >>> > >   - SPI
>> >>> > >   - I2C within ADC pins
>> >>> > >   - 6 PWM channels (this can't be defeated...)
>>
>> >>> > > This can be cuckooed by 18f25k22 :)
>>
>> >>> > >http://www.microchip.com/wwwproducts/Devices.aspx?dDocName=en546240
>>
>> >>> > > Cheers (Groeten)
>> >>> > > Seb
>>
>> >>> > >> On Jul 5, 4:29 pm, Sebastien Lelong <[email protected]>
>> >>> > >> wrote:
>> >>> > >> > Hi guys,
>>
>> >>> > >> > The Cuckoos are a bird family, known to be brood parasite. Mother
>> >>> > >> > Cuckoo
>> >>> > >> > lays its eggs on other bird's nest. Baby Cuckoo will be brooded
>> >>> > >> > and when
>> >>> > >> > hatched, will clear the nest from other eggs. It will be fed, for
>> >>> > >> > free,
>> >>> > >> > until it often reaches  ten times the size of its parents (which
>> >>> > >> > seem
>> >>> > >> dumb
>> >>> > >> > enough not to mention the subterfuge).
>>
>> >>> > >> > This gave me an idea for another Jaluino family. Codename: Jaluino
>> >>> > >> Cuckoo !
>>
>> >>> > >> > The idea is to unplug ATMega168 from Arduino Duemilanove and plug
>> >>> > >> > a
>> >>> > >> > Microchip PIC instead. A small PCB would probably needed to map
>> >>> > >> > pins. I
>> >>> > >> had
>> >>> > >> > a look potentials PICs, like 18F2680, 18F2620. 18F2550 isn't that
>> >>> > >> > useful
>> >>> > >> as
>> >>> > >> > there's no USB on Arduino Duemilanove. It would need UART, I²C,
>> >>> > >> > PWM, ADC
>> >>> > >> > (preferably with independent pin), and should run as fast as
>> >>> > >> > possible
>> >>> > >> with a
>> >>> > >> > 16MHz externak Xtal.
>>
>> >>> > >> > Does it sound doable ? Suggestions ? Warnings ?
>>
>> >>> > >> > Cheers,
>> >>> > >> > Seb
>> >>> > >> > --
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