On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 9:57 PM, Oliver Seitz <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Hi Seb,
>
> >Do you think it can be "visible" for any DC motors ? The most dirty motors
> may give the better results ? (lots of friction, maybe ?)
>
> I don't think the friction or anything does have a big influence. But yes,
> I think all commutator motors will give similar current curves. (It may
> differ for compensated motors, but you won't find compensated motors with
> less than several hundred watts ;-) )
>
> >And, just my curiosity, do you have any pictures about what you've seen on
> the scope ?
>
> Yes, now I have :-) Please don't laugh about my cheap taiwanese scope, I'll
> get a decent one as soon as I can afford it. And, yes, I could have
> connected it to a computer, but I had no windows machine within USB range...
> So there are some clumsy photographs.
>

   Nobody laugh (some people does not have scopes at all anyway...:)) . A
serious hardware guy will never use his scope connected to a PC, we can talk
about that other time, I let you understand why alone, measuring a 5KV pulse
with 1:100 probe.

The subject of this email is  perfect for hijak.
Back EMF is the holly grail for zero energy devices. I suggest to take a
close look to the Adam's motor. Adam's was an New Zealand aussie (if I can
say such anachronism). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adams_motor
There are some guys which are building such devices in (small) series,
trying even to sell it.
There is a movie sowing what they do with back EMF:
http://cgi.ebay.com/FREE-ENERGY-FUELLES-GENERATOR-1-Kwt-AVIG-XXI-century-/250713195287?pt=BI_Generators&hash=item3a5fabc317#ht_9354wt_1135

Of course, nowhere can be seen an energetical balance...
:)

Vasile

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