On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Oliver Seitz <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> >A serious hardware guy will never use his scope connected to a PC, we can
> talk about that other time, I let you understand why alone, measuring a 5KV
> pulse with 1:100 probe.
>
> Good point ;-) But as all was below 12V and earth-free, I could have risked
> it this time...
>

Maybe, however I remember I have measured the primary resistance of 600KW
power transformers using a 12V battery (180Ah) and the a hi class
voltmeter+ammeter. The time requested for the coil to charge was about 3
minutes and the arch when disconnect the battery from the coil has about
50cm lenght.... So, you have understood what I mean.
:)



>
> >There are some guys which are building such devices in (small) series,
> trying even to sell it.
>
> They're assembling it when ordered, shipping 40 days after purchase. The
> ebay user comments mention lots of russian tubes, valves and spare parts
> that were sold correctly, but it looks like they have never sold such a
> generator before.
>
> I think it's curious that they're talking about battery capacity in the
> product text. If the machine produces 1kw, there is an optimum capacity for
> that, no point in increasing it. Why would you need backup for a device that
> does not need any fuel?
>
> On the wikipedia page, there's a plausible explanation: The machine drains
> the batteries, but uses a trick to make the batteries still appear to be
> full.
>
> > There is a movie sowing what they do with back EMF:
> http://cgi.ebay.com/FREE-ENERGY-FUELLES-GENERATOR-1-Kwt-AVIG-XXI-century-/250713195287?pt=BI_Generators&hash=item3a5fabc317#ht_9354wt_1135
>
> They only show a big rotor with an obviously good bearing, some sine waves
> at about 180 Volts (not the 220V they try to sell), lots of wires and
> lead-acid batteries... That's unfortunately not enough to convince me :-D
>
>
> While Seb uses his motors as generators, they build a motor and call it a
> generator. In both cases there is both a voltage and a frequency by which
> the rotational speed can be determined. The frequency would be the more
> accurate in either way. So we're back on topic. ;-)
>
> Greets,
> Kiste
>
>
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