"Somehow, I have the impression that JAL have better "dead
code removal" algorithms. "

Than mikroPascal - wanted to say.

On May 22, 6:04 pm, "funlw65(Vasi)" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yes, his closed source libraries. But you can write your own pack of
> libraries and the mikroPascal community already did this.
> In mikroPascal language you have support for assembler code.
>
> In my opinion, PMP is much better than mikroPascal, the only drawback
> of PMP being the absence of "dead code removal" feature (the zone
> where JAL shines, and the reason why is better to have specific
> libraries instead of universal ones for PMP). Although, PMP is almost
> as much as JAL in produced code size; but compensate with language
> features. Somehow, I have the impression that JAL have better "dead
> code removal" algorithms.
>
> Anyway, I'm talking about learning only one (very easy) language and
> being able to use a large model of microcontrollers: Microchip (Pic12,
> Pic16, Pic18, Pic24/33, Pic32), AVR(ATtiny, ATmega, Xmega, etc.),
> 8051. Regarding this, mikroPascal is superior to PMP and JAL. For a
> beginner is a matter of choosing the right microcontroller for his
> application (no delays).
>
> In my opinion, JAL is brilliant on smaller chips, where you don't need
> sophisticated language features. It will start to loose this advantage
> (against PMP) when it will come with support for pointers and floating
> point math.
>
> Vasi
>
> On May 22, 9:56 am, vasile surducan <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:35 AM, Jaluino <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > funlw65(Vasi) wrote:
>
> > >  "bigger bugs (A bug's life movie)", the best choice is mikroPascal
> > >> from MikroElektronika.
>
> > > mikroPascal is nice - I'm still using the free (restricted code size) demo
> > > but may well buy it.
>
> >    Can you point in a few words which are the mikroPascal weak features
> > compared with jal ? I have the feeling I've understand those even I've only
> > take a brief look to the mikroPascal compiler.
>
> > The best quality of jal, which I have appreciated since 2000, is the choice
> > of having total control on your libraries and of your written code down to
> > the assembler level. This is extremely important for a guy which writes
> > intimate code for the machine, rather than HLL heavily structured code.
>
> > thank you,
> > Vasile

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