Ah yes thank you very much, I found a link and have found the starter pack 
that contained the Xwisp programmer software. 
It is the same as the download that you have here with the same libraries. 
but as I said it has the setup for the xwisp and the old libraries that go 
with the book
many thanks for your help

Steve

On Monday, 27 January 2014 07:20:29 UTC+1, Joep wrote:
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> Asaik Bert is not reading here. If you want support on books of Bert, I 
> suggest you ask him at http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/jallist/
>
> Joep
>
>
> 2014/1/27 <[email protected] <javascript:>>
>
>> I suppose its because I cant seem to get the programmer to work with the 
>> new software.
>> In the manual at
>>
>> http://www.justanotherlanguage.org/content/jallib/tutorials/tutorial_installation
>> the manual does not correspond with what I see when I click 
>> tools/environmental options/ programmer ......
>> I cant see how to get the xwisp in there.
>> I tried to re download the old version of jal from voti, but the page 
>> does not exist anymore.
>> Does anyone know where i can get this if it still exists?
>> I would like to stick to learning from my book with a package that was 
>> created for it. Maybe when I have learnt enough I can move on to other more 
>> modern versions.
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On Sunday, 26 January 2014 17:23:43 UTC+1, Joep wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Steve,
>>>
>>> Here you are at jallib, which is an other set of libraries than used by 
>>> Bert in his books. Mixing these might give issues.
>>> Having said this: jallib should work and I run (a slightly older) 
>>> version on win7 64 bit too, as well as an old version of the xwisp 
>>> programmer. Afaik there has not been changes that should give you the 
>>> impression 'everything' has changed.
>>> The lack of details prevents me to give you more specific advide.
>>> If you want help, tell us which package with Jal did you get, what 
>>> tutorial projects you refer to, what do you see, resulting in the 
>>> conclusion everything has changed?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Joep
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014/1/26 <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> Hello all
>>>>
>>>> Would some kind person tell me what has happened to JAL?
>>>>
>>>> about 4 years ago I discovered pic micro-controllers and I chose JAL as 
>>>> it was free and seemed quite interesting.
>>>> I downloaded all the software and bought the manual and starter kit 
>>>> from voti. and the xwisp programmer.
>>>> I got a few tutorial projects into the book, when a move of house and 
>>>> family commitments put my new hobby on hold for a while ( well until now 
>>>> really)
>>>> I got a new computer and downloaded JAL hoping to pick up where i left 
>>>> off, but everything has changed! 
>>>> I now see in the examples lots of new code that i have no idea what it 
>>>> does other than its to do with crystal speed. and my programmer does not 
>>>> seem to work any more.
>>>> The tutorial pdf which explains the setup procedure does not correspond 
>>>> to what i have on my computer.
>>>> Basicly i cant get anything to work and im quite lost.
>>>> I am running win7 on 64bit
>>>> I hope someone will take the time to guide me through all the new 
>>>> changes, what they mean and how to get started again.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Steve
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