We are on stock firmware for the PK2 and Pk3.  We have a specific firmware 
for the Pi solution (to resolve the USB timeout issues in the Pi4 USB 
hardware).

Are you referring to the database version?   PK- is in a very hacked 
version of our 2.63.223.1 release.  The database from PK- is not compatible 
with PICKitPlus (even though I offered him our source).  So, we are 
maintaining the master version.  It will be long before that is `taken` 
into PK-.   We are planning to change the database to ensure it cannot be 
lifted again when we add PK4 interoperability.

So, we are as follows:
Application version 6.61.0.74
Device File Version  2.63.236.1
Firmware 2.32.00

What is the version number you are looking at please?





On Sunday, 27 November 2022 at 18:00:44 UTC vasile wrote:

> Evan, I am a bit confused. Pickit+ is using different firmware than the 
> original  Microchip. Pickit- is using Microchip firmware and Pickit+ 
> database.... That looks strange in my logic, but also shows that Pickit- 
> may be somehow different than Pickit+?
>
> On Sun 27 Nov 2022, 6:10 PM '[email protected]' via jallib <
> [email protected] wrote:
>
>> @Filipe 
>>
>> PICKIT- developer took our database, took our ideas and now are hurting 
>> us.  I have spoken on the real issues regarding the changes made to the 
>> database that can cause real damage to microcontrollers.
>> I am personally in debt regarding the development of PICKitPlus.  
>> Please consider donating to our project even if the donation is a token 
>> donation of a few $$.
>>
>> Evan
>>
>> On Saturday, 26 November 2022 at 20:17:34 UTC [email protected] wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again.
>>>
>>> PickitMinus is great!!!
>>> It has that PIC (16F19176) that am using (and many other ones) and it 
>>> worked like a charm.
>>> Thank you so much Rob.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Filipe Santos.
>>>
>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 8:08:05 PM UTC flyway38 wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey Vasile/ Rob.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you very much for your input.
>>>> Will check that options.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Filipe Santos.
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 1:32:51 PM UTC 
>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Not happy that someone took our work. Very unhappy. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/AAb9ysg>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *From:* [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf 
>>>>> of flyway38 <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, November 26, 2022 12:43:54 PM
>>>>> *To:* jallib <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [jallib] Re: Help on integrating PIC16F19176 in Pickit 
>>>>> 2 options 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hello Evan
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, am using standard Pickit 2 software.
>>>>> Where do I find newer data base for it?
>>>>> Will google for it.
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Filipe Santos.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, November 26, 2022 at 12:15:47 PM UTC 
>>>>> [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> re:  The chip you are trying to add. 
>>>>>
>>>>> It uses a different protocol for the SPI communications.  You will 
>>>>> require to make changes to the application to change from LSB SPI to MSB 
>>>>> SPI, and, a host of other application changes in  terms of memory 
>>>>> locations.
>>>>>
>>>>> The newer chips starting with the 16F18855 chip family and then the 
>>>>> 18FxxK40 use the different protocol.  
>>>>>
>>>>> Options:
>>>>> IPE for MPLAB 5.xx and onwards
>>>>> PICKitPlus
>>>>> change programmer to a North Programmer ( very fast).
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, 26 November 2022 at 11:49:30 UTC [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Filip,
>>>>>
>>>>> Which software are you using with your PicKit2, is that the standard 
>>>>> Microchip software?
>>>>>
>>>>> I guess you need a more recent database. Did you try that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Rob
>>>>>
>>>>> ------------------------------
>>>>> *Van:* [email protected] <[email protected]> namens 
>>>>> flyway38 <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Verzonden:* zaterdag 26 november 2022 11:17
>>>>> *Aan:* jallib <[email protected]>
>>>>> *Onderwerp:* [jallib] Re: Help on integrating PIC16F19176 in Pickit 2 
>>>>> options 
>>>>>  
>>>>> Hello all,
>>>>>
>>>>> No help here?
>>>>> Tried to use PIC16F1939 as base to my PIC16F19176.
>>>>> Changed only Device ID (tried 30A0 as per datasheet and 309C as per 
>>>>> JAL PIC lib) and no luck.
>>>>> Kept all other parameters as they show similar to my PIC ones (at 
>>>>> least the ones I could identify).
>>>>> Pickit 2 shows warning message: "Hex File Loaded is large than device"
>>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Filipe Santos.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 7:37:44 PM UTC [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> See 
>>>>> https://github.com/Anobium/PICKitPlus/tree/master/PickIt%20ScriptEditor 
>>>>> for our editor. 
>>>>>
>>>>> There are applications changes required to make the new chips.  
>>>>>
>>>>> But, happy to share the editor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evan
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, 25 November 2022 at 19:33:08 UTC [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hey again Evan,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank for the input and corrections.
>>>>> Just found a "cheaper" way :D
>>>>> https://jared.geek.nz/2013/jan/adding-extra-chips-to-the-pickit-2
>>>>> Now only need to find what's similar to my pic, in Pickit 2 original 
>>>>> library.
>>>>> Thanks anyways.
>>>>>
>>>>> Greetings
>>>>> Filipe Santos.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 7:21:42 PM UTC [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Apologies. 
>>>>>
>>>>> www.pickitplus.co.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> What works out of the box?  We provide PK2 software that is fully 
>>>>> supported.  We are a Microchip Software Partner.
>>>>> Are you developer of what?  PICKITPlus software
>>>>> That website doesn't work (server not found)...My error, see URL abouve
>>>>> Not sure how to solve my issue that way. - install our software and it 
>>>>> will work. We have Windows, LX and Pi versions.  We have UI version and 
>>>>> command line versions.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, 25 November 2022 at 19:18:10 UTC [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Evan
>>>>>
>>>>> Not sure if understand correctly your text.
>>>>> What works out of the box?
>>>>> Are you developer of what?
>>>>> That website doesn't work (server not found)...
>>>>> Not sure how to solve my issue that way.
>>>>> I know I can add this PIC to Pickit 2 library. Just need some hint to 
>>>>> start with.
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Filipe Santos.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, November 25, 2022 at 7:01:28 PM UTC [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Notes: As we are developing more and more. 
>>>>>
>>>>> Added recently.  16F181xx,  16F171xx and the  16F188xx families of 
>>>>> chips.  All tested on real silicon.
>>>>> Also, recenlty.
>>>>> Resolved 18fXXQ84/Q83 issues.
>>>>> Resolve 18fXXQ43 Config value.
>>>>> Resolved K40 read error .
>>>>> Added wider support for the dsPIC30 family  - tested on real silicon 
>>>>> Revised all LF chips to correct voltage
>>>>> Revised :LF  config with changes and corrections
>>>>> EE Erase improvements for all chips
>>>>> Added PIC18FxxJ94/3
>>>>> Resolved Qxx Progmem issue
>>>>> Added PIC18FxxQ83/4
>>>>>      
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, 25 November 2022 at 18:49:36 UTC [email protected] 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Filipe it works out of the box.  Along with most of the new chips.   
>>>>>
>>>>> I am the developer and you can get at  www.pickiplus.co.uk
>>>>>
>>>>> You will be operational and supported in a few minutes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Send me a PM and I will get you a URL that you can use to get the PK2 
>>>>> only software = less.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, 25 November 2022 at 18:46:07 UTC [email protected] wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>> Need help on this integration; PIC16F19176 into Pickit 2' s library.
>>>>> Am aware of Pickit2 Script Editor. Have already used it to integrate 
>>>>> an easier one before.
>>>>> But for this on (16F19176) don't know any similar one to start with.
>>>>> Any would would be appreciated.
>>>>> Thank you very much.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Filipe Santos.
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