Noel,

Looks rather serious... like you said, perhaps building our own trigger
mechanism is the way to go.

More importantly, I just wanted to note that SchedulerNotifyInputStream will
reset the trigger every 20,000 bytes, not every byte.  So while bad, it's
not the end of JVM's as we know it. :)

Serge Knystautas
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Noel J. Bergman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "James-Dev Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Shilpa Dalmia" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 11:54 PM
Subject: RE: SMTPHandler connection timeout


> Shilpa,
>
> You've got me convinced.
>
> Having read the thread, more James code and the relevant portions of
> Cornerstone, I believe that you are actually underestimating.  If what
> appears to be the case from my reading of the code, and what you and Peter
> Donald say is happening, then you are underestimating the potential
> magnitude of the problem by orders.  Trace through the doDATA method.  It
> appears to be that SchedulerNotifyInputStream resets the trigger for EVERY
> BYTE OF DATA in the message stream; SchedulerNotifyOutputStream does the
> same when writing.  If those are really resulting in a new queue entry for
> each byte of data (which is what appears to be the case), that's brutal,
and
> really needs to be addressed either in Avalon or in James.
>
> As far as I can see, James is using this as a watchdog timer, which does
not
> appear to be the design point for Avalon's facility, based upon their own
> comments, design and implementation.  And even the workaround to Avalon of
> adding another thread or doing the replacement during the reset would be
> performance prohibitive given that the trigger is reset for each byte of
> data read from the stream.  I've done a grep of James to find all uses of
> the trigger code, and it looks to be similar in all cases.  Perhaps a more
> efficient watchdog solution can be devised, maybe tied to the handler
> instance.  I'd sooner create a watchdog thread per handler than have 100s
of
> thousands (or millions) of events in the scheduler queue.
>
> Am I reading this correctly?  Your throughts?
>
> --- Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shilpa Dalmia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2002 19:26
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: FW: SMTPHandler connection timeout
>
>
> You can look at the foll. avalon mailing list thread on this issue where
> they have given an explanation for this.
> http://www.mail-archive.com/avalon-dev@jakarta.apache.org/msg08660.html
>
> I have a implemented a temporary solution for this issue, which fixes the
> problem.
>
> Shilpa
>
>
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