The commonly accepted theory is that spammers will stop sending their spam when they realise that you are not relaying it.

This is probably not much help to you right now though. You may need to configure your router to drop packets from the spammer's address.

Out of interest, do the JAMES logs say why it crashed? There ought to be a stack trace somewhere. My own tests (some months ago) show that JAMES would start rejecting connections with a socket exception at about 10 new connections/second, but it never actually crashed.

ADK

JRC wrote:
James2.1a1-cvs
JRE 1.4.0_1

I just had an interesting evening with a spammer.

About a week ago I gave a guy an account and noticed he was testing James to
see if it would relay mail using a different address in the return path. I
looked at the messages in the spam folder and noticed it was spam he was
practicing with. I cancelled his account and put his username in a matcher
that bounces a message saying the account has been cancelled. I do this for
the first week or two after cancelling an account to take advantage of the
funny behaviour we have of sending ourselves email.

Anyway, last night this spammer spews countless thousands of emails using
the same body he was practicing with when he had an account from me AND he
used that account name in the return path so I got every single bounce. The
traffic was unbelievable, I had to modify the matcher to just send to null
to cut down on the traffic. James spontaneously shut down a little after
midnight. After getting james back up and watching for a while I decided to
go to bed.

When I got up this morning James was down again, went down at 3:47 this
morning. After restarting James I started getting all of the bounces that
went to my backup server while James was down.

How do I make it stop? The stuff is still coming?

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Subject: RE: My first contact with James
Aaron.


I agree with all of what you have said.  I have no particular desire to
change JAMES behaviour here, as it is probably more effort than it is
worth.  (I think that putting mail handling rules in the SMTP dialog
handler instead of the processor would be a bad trade off to
make.  If I am
not mistaken, that would be the only way to achieve it, right?)

Right, this is the dilemma, it would obfuscate James configuration to have
an additional set of configurable rules here.



The perception of this by non-technical clients is something to be aware
of, however.  I have struck situations where clients have had the black
hole thing pointed out to them by those proposing alternate solutions.  It
does tend to make them uneasy.

I do understand this, but IMO the arguments for both approaches are equally
compelling, tell them that rejecting mail at the border will allow their
genuine addresses to be harvested, and that SMTP auth will reject much of
the mail intended for illicit relaying at the border without revealing local
usernames.


As for the blackhole behind the firewall scenario - you are absolutely
right.  On thinking about it, I suspect this is actually preferable to
rejection.

IMO blackholes are preferable to rejection on the basis that they provide no
information whatsoever to the sender, this is one guiding principle of
firewalls, try telnetting to a port protected by a firewall and your
connection just times out, you have no idea whether you were denied access,
if there was a problem connecting, or even if the machine really exists on
the network.
By the same token I believe that spam blackholes leave potential spammers
unable to determine if a real mail service is running, if it is broken, or
if their mail has been rejected, and it certainly doesn't help them to
determine who the real local users may be.

In my experience spammers will probe SMTP with mail sent to themselves via
an MTA, if that mail is not recieved (and blackholes, by definition, don't
deliver it) they will move on and look for other MTA's to probe.

I've seen as many as a dozen such probe attempts in a single day, but no
more than this and usually only one or two, this doesn't eat up bandwidth by
even a fraction of that used by unsolicited mail sent to real users, hence
my rather greater concern for obscuring the genuine mail addresses on a
domain.
Only once in almost two years have I encountered a spammer who dumped mail
into James without checking it out first, and this would not have happened
if the server were demanding SMTP auth.

d.




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