jon * wrote:
> 
> on 1/12/00 2:40 PM, Kevin A. Burton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > So we have had 1.1b3 out for a while.  I have run it in numerous
> > situations and I haven't seen any major bugs posted.  Why don't we go
> > 1.1 final?  Is there anything major pending?
> 
> The only major issue that is pending that I'm aware of is getting Pier to
> fix some Win32 crap with the installer. If there is other stuff, please let
> me know (remind me if you have to) and I will see about getting it taken
> care of. I try to not let stuff fall through the cracks but it happens all
> the time anyways...
> 
> > Jakarta IMO is in a state of disarray right now.  We tried deploying it
> > and noticed major quality control problems.  Hopefully this will change
> > soon but until then it would be great if we had a 1.1 of JServ.
> 
> Kevin, Jakarta is a project. Tomcat is the engine. We never pretended that
> it had the maturity and stability that Apache JServ has had. Especially
> since it hasn't been in the open world for nearly as long. 6 months from
> now, we hope things will be different. Quality software takes time to
> develop, you should know that. ;-)


<ranting>

Then why is it labelled 3.0 ?
0.3 would seem much more descriptive of its real state.
any idea where the 3.0 comes from (has there been any 1.0 & 2.0 before)
?



among all the things that are not working properly:

- response.setHeader("Content-Type", "foo/bar"); does not set the
content-type
- having two servlets with the same name in a web app does not work,
WITHOUT ANY WARNING/MESSAGE
- having two servlets with the same pattern in a web app does not work,
WITHOUT ANY WARNING/MESSAGE

and a personal opinion: ant is the worst build tool ever, I can't
believe you're using that piece of crap.

</ranting>



<my2centseventhoughpeoplaregonnathinkImrantingagain>

I don't believe labeling Tomcat 3.0 helps open source software at all.
people are gonna try it, test it, realize it is unusable, and make their
mind on Open Source Software as toys. 'cos that's what it is now. a nice
toy to play with some of the new features coming in the servlet land.
I've been (and all the people I knwo suepr happy with the quality of
Apache JServ, and maybe the apache group should start keep an eye on the
quality of the projects it's hosting (as simple as making sure that
verion numbers for these projects meets standard expectations.

I also think that maybe having companies like Sun contributing/pushing
those projects is dnagerous, because all they want is to be able to say
that there is a kick ass version of their latest spec out there. even
better: it is part of the Apache Group which means it is quality
software (because so far, that was true). So they can tell their
customer that "yes, JSP is there, it's mature, you can even get it for
free with the apache server"; but that's not gonna help the Open Source
community.

</my2centseventhoughpeoplaregonnathinkImrantingagain>




jm.


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