At 11:44 PM 11/4/98 -0500, Nelson Minar wrote:
>I'd really hate to see this list get dragged into a debate about
>Java Linux porting team politics. The folks who have donated their
>effort to bringing Java to Linux - all of them - have done a wonderful
>job. Thanks to you all!
Agreed.
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>What we do need, in the research community, is a more open Java
>system. Something we can all hack on, experiment with. It's not going
>to come from Sun, and therefore I suspect it's not going to come from
>the Linux porting team.
>
>It could possibly come from one of the free VM efforts - Kaffe,
>Japhar, or what Cygnus is up to. If you're really interested in
>building an open Java base to experiment with, I think those are the
>places to start.
For the most part, I agree with what Sun is doing. Imagine if we had a
half-dozen or so variations of TCP/IP. I don't want Java to go down the
road HTML is on. There are Netscape extensions and Microsoft extensions,
etc. Most of it works everywhere but not all.
Java is something for which I have waited a long time. A tightly
controlled standard is necessary if its going to be interoperable. So far,
I'm relatively happy with Java's progress.
Nothing is perfect and nothing ever will be.
Just my $.02.
Douglas Toltzman
Oak Street Software, Inc.