On Wed, Nov 04, 1998 at 09:57:19PM -0800, Steve Byrne wrote:
> We're LEGALLY OBLIGATED to be closed.  We signed the non-commercial source
> license.  We're not allowed to share with non-licensees.  So we have a
> "licensees only" mailing list.  

This is the real problem with Java on Linux. By definition this effort 
cannot be "Open Source" because of the Sun licensing situation. This and
the inability to easily certify projects like Kaffe and call them a JavaVM, 
make Java a real problem in the Open Source community. Java started out as
a standard that had the potential to erase the boundries associated with
proprietary software platforms but has devolved into a sort of cross-platform
Visual Basic with a prettier syntax. Admittedly, Sun publishes the specs
(for now and on most components) but thats an odd concession when matching
their specs does not give you something you can call Java.

Shrug,
E

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