Mike Christiansen wrote:

> Riyad Kalla wrote:
>
> > These are good points.. and I think the reason Sun doesn't support Linux so readily
> > is simply because it would be shooting its self right in the Solaris-Foot. If it
> > provides a high performance, solaris quality Java implementation... they may loose
> > a bit of business. I don't know details of course about this, but that seemed the
> > most readily availble answer.
> >
>
> I don't think that Linux competes with Solaris in the server market. (at least not in
> the short-term). I think that Linux will hurt NT far-far more. If anything, a Linux
> application server that outgrows its platform is likely to migrate to the "big iron"
> unixes, and with the Java connection, Solaris would be a natural progression.
>
> >
> > Anyone else have input on this?
> >
>
>

Well Sun is the Company that cam up with the SCL  so ...
>From the perspective of the SCL Sun is bending over backwards to support the Blackdown
port.
It's us poor miserble  Open Source guys who won't support  and SCL product.
I don't know. It seems the  Linux Wave  is going righ over Suns head.
I always thought  the java/linux connection was a  no brainer.

Maybe this is the downside to a company controlling a "vital" technology.
If the requirements of a failry large group of users is not considered important.
Tough.

I suspect a very large percentage of  Java developers use Linux workstations for
development.
But theres been no survey to my  knowledge.

There is no way to know Suns answers to these questions.  I don't think there that
Redmonian
it's just Sun doesnt get Linux or Open Source from what I can tell.
And with Baratz leaving it may be a long long time before  Sun tackles any Java/Linux
issues.

Bummer.

Personally long term  I'm waiting for the Classpath group to get there stuff working.
If I was to contribute to a project it would be classpath but I feel "tainted" by the
SCL.
I want that project as clean room as possible.
Since I plan on switching to Classpath once its ready I'll simply stay out of porting
for now.

The bummer is it's starting to look like at least a year before something  happens good
for Java/Linux
unless IBM keeps coming through for us.  I think IBM is the best hope for Java/Linux
today.
Even though I love programming  Java the current Java/Linux  situation is  probably the
biggest
failure  of the promise of Java today.
Having to suggest NT for  java  deployment really hurts  somehow deep inside : (


BTW

Gnome really mucks up  Frame positions for java.  setBounds fails to move a frame.
At least for me.








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