>>>>> William Gallafent writes:

    William> On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Michael Emmel wrote:
    >> Actually java  works well under KDE some bugs under
    >> Windowmaker  major bugs under Enlightenment .

    William> Window positioning seems to be broken under KDE too, in my
    William> experience. For example (first one I could think of),
    William> when susefax (Java front end for Hylafax that ships with
    William> SuSE) starts up, the window is placed in the very top left
    William> corner of the screen. This means the titlebar is obscured
    William> by the icon bar thingy that I have running along the top of
    William> the screen. All other windows are placed smartly by the

If we let the wm place the frame (we had some versions that allowed
that), people complain that it breaks their programs on Linux.  So
we're back to the standard behavior, (0,0) is the correct position in
your case.

    William> windowmanager (kwm of course) ... but Java ones don't obey
    William> the wm's placement policy. This puts me in agreement with
    William> the "Java tries to do too much that is the responsibility
    William> of the wm" camp. When a new window appears on my screen, I
    William> want it to appear as I have defined in the window manager
    William> configuration. Java windows do not do this, which is broken
    William> behaviour IMO.

You won't see the 'correct' behavior without an API change.
There's an RFE at the JDC:
http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4102292.html


        Juergen

-- 
Juergen Kreileder, Blackdown Java-Linux Porting Team
http://www.blackdown.org/java-linux.html


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