Peter Graves wrote:
> 
> The authors of the Enlightenment window manager have some
> interesting comments today about Java:
> 
>     http://www.enlightenment.org/news.html
> 
> Their basic point is that "Java under X (AWT) is Broken"; they
> don't mention which Java implementation they're referring to.

Haven't seen this on Linux, but JDK 1.1.6 on Solaris has major problems
with placement of newly created Frames.

The E team's allegation that AWT is not following the rules is
believable.

As AWT has to work with Sun's OpenWin (Motif 1.2) and Sun's X server for
Windows NT, which is a little bit different from the major brands like
Exceed, there is not a whole lot that it can do to make informed
decisions.  I do remember reading comments in the AWT source files which
states that AWT don't even know if the window bounds that it has gotten
back from the X server includes the decorations or not.

> I don't think things are all that bad with either version of the
> Blackdown port (or with the new IBM 1.1.8 implementation either,
> for that matter), but I have noticed that dialogs (in particular)
> tend to drift a bit under various window managers, even though
> there's explicit code in the application to save and restore
> their position.  Both Enlightenment and Windowmaker seem to have
> this problem, but icewm, last time I checked, did not.  Windows
> VMs don't seem to have this problem at all.

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Weiqi Gao
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