thanks for the input nathan.. 
i work in one of the biggest linux shops in the world.
java is definitely where i want to go; it is just a matter of when
and with what..
our linux machines (usually just P2-400s running http://www.roxen.com, which
now supports servlets) take
millions of hits, download at 50+Mbits/second, do lots of complex dynamic
content; and have uptime of months..months..even years.
many of these servers live totally unattended in remote locations
around the world.

i have alot of praise for the linux efforts w/ java.
but if i use a java environment, it must be relatively free of leaks.
so i am looking for advise on where to go with blackdown today.

the software i wrote represents something very simple
which a developer might try to do.  objects constructed inside
of the method may be totally private in scope-- by good design.
it's not intended to run thousands of times per minute
in a real life situation.  i have just been doing things
like this to see how it holds up in a matter of days or weeks,
and why i would need more than 32 or 64 MB of RAM to do it.

luckily, with this community we share, 
we have not had to spend much cash to get
what we need on the web side. 
(i won't talk about the oracle/sun stuff though!)

i will have to take a look at TowerJ.

what is the consensus about when the blackdown jdk
will be ready for what i need to do?  i would rather
use it; money not being a major issue.

--michael


At 06:59 PM 1/5/00 -0800, Nathan Meyers wrote:
>"Michael E. Moores" wrote:
>> 
>> i want to know that i can use the blackdown implementation
>> for serving a medium volume ecommerce site which is responsible
>> for millions of dollars of revenue.
>> so far, not so good.  but i am not a senior java developer,
>> so some inputs would be very much appreciated!
>
>I don't mean to be heretical, but using an unoptimized sample
>implementation is not always the best solution for mission-critical
>server applications. The Blackdown ports, and the more recent IBM and
>Inprise ports, are a huge boon to Java developers and users on Linux -
>but they're sample implementations that have ported a lot of inefficient
>code directly from Sun.
>
>You may want to look at the Volano benchmarks
>(http://www.volano.com/report.html), which subject JVMs to server-type
>stresses. Interestingly, a Linux-based Java deployment environment comes
>out on top. It's from TowerJ, and it's far from free. But how much
>revenue did you say was at stake?
>
>Nathan
>
>


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