At 07:19 1/6/00 -0800, "Michael E. Moores" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>you are TOTALLY incorrect in your assumptions
>about where i am using roxen.
then I whole heartedly appologize for my confusion.
>i don't even have any idea what hell you are toaking about.
ahem. your address is "moores at REAL DOT COM". your x-sender
field is "moores at prognet dot com" which is of course the
parent company of real.
>real servers? encoding?
>whatever man.
Do I actually have to point you to the url? http://www.real.com/
A part of the RealNetworks company; who among other things sell
a server box which is a turn key solution for radio stations
and such to allow them to begin broadcasting on the net.
This product line and it's intended use fit your description
to a tee; and while I don't beleive they use java today,
I can EASILY see them doing some development in that direction.
This is what lead to that assumption, if you say I'm off base
then fine, I'll take your word for it at face value.
>At 03:13 AM 1/6/00 -0600, Chris Abbey wrote:
>><disclaimer>
>>my nose is itching. I might be smelling what I think I smell,
>>in which case I'm sick of it. I might be imagining things...
>></disclaimer>
to your off list question then:
There have been an increasing number of comercial companies lately
who have tried to push OSS products into production before they were
ready. These people have then come screaming to the community on lists
such as this one trying to get help. One such user was screaming that
his company was loosing thousands of dollars a day, three or four
people on the list did a lot of email debugging to determin that
they had not RTFM and had setup contradictory configurations. When
they presented a "bill" to the complainer they were blown off.
Too many companies it seems are seeing OSS/free software as the
answer for turning marginal bussiness models into successful
models. I'm not saying you fit this model, and that was the point
of my disclaimer... this COULD be that type of case, but I wasn't
really sure; as I said, no offense was intended.
>>we have not had to spend much cash to get
>>what we need on the web side.
>[...]
>>what is the consensus about when the blackdown jdk
>>will be ready for what i need to do? i would rather
>>use it; money not being a major issue.
if that is the case - that you haven't had to spend much money
for the web side, and that money isn't a major issue - and this
previous statment is also what your working on:
> a medium volume ecommerce site which is responsible
> for millions of dollars of revenue.
then I will again invite your company (whoever it may be) to
use some of the money you *would have spent* had you used a
commercial JVM to give back to the community... you referenced
oracle/sun (you're right on that nightmare... don't even get me
started....) so I'll ask you to look at the total cost of operation
for the solaris production VM and consider putting some fraction
thereof back in after you move into production and start raking
in those millions of dollars of revenue. hell... if nothing else
buy all nine of 'em pizza and beer.
since this had even less to do with linux on java than much of
the recent traffic here I'll take followons off list; but I wanted
to appologize for the misunderstanding publicly. -=Chris
cabbey at home dot net <*> http://members.home.net/cabbey
I want a binary interface to the brain!
Today's opto-mechanical digital interfaces are just too slow!
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