Difference in performance, indexing speed and index size will greatly
depend on the data. There is some data at
https://www.elastic.co/blog/searching-numb3rs-in-5.0.

FYI there is one known case when points perform worse than legacy
numeric fields: exact queries on low-cardinality fields. But if you
perform actual range queries on high-cardinality fields, you should
see improvements.

On Thu, Apr 4, 2019 at 7:45 AM brahmam <sreerama.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> Thank you for your response.
> Yes moving to 8.0 will be the plan if we plan to re-index.
>
> Before we re-index would like to know few details which will help us to
> decide further on that:
>
> In Lucene 6.0 migrate page(https://lucene.apache.org/core/6_0_0/MIGRATE.html)
> it says "*PointValues replaces NumericField*"
> and also says "*PointValues provides faster indexing and searching, a
> smaller index size, and less heap used at search time. See
> org.apache.lucene.index.PointValues for an introduction.*"
> Could we please get the *statistics* for this Point values about the
> performance on faster indexing and searching and also on the index size and
> heap used ?
>
> Thank you in Advance!
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 12:59 PM Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > IndexUpgrader would not help, you need to reindex indeed using your
> > own Java program.
> >
> > If you plan to reindex, then you might want to look into going
> > straight to Lucene 8.0 (latest).
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 3, 2019 at 9:04 AM brahmam <sreerama.n...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Thanks for your response.
> > >
> > > Does the IndexUpgrader tool will help in order to re-index using
> > LongPoint ?
> > > Or
> > > Do we need to create completely new Index using LongPoint by writing a
> > java
> > > programme  ?
> > > Or
> > > any other tool or best way to do ?
> > >
> > > Thank you in Advance!
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 6:17 PM Adrien Grand <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > You got it right, you will need to reindex with LongPoint before being
> > > > about to search with LongPoint#newRangeQuery. It's fine to keep using
> > > > LegacyNumericRangeQuery until then.
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 1:56 PM brahmam <sreerama.n...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks for your response.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now that in 6.6.5 it recommends to use  LongPoint.newRangeQuery()
> > instead
> > > > > of deprecated LegacyNumericRangeQuery.newLongRange(),
> > > > > So Does it means, we need to re-index old data using LongPoint so
> > that it
> > > > > is searchable in upgrade scenarios ?
> > > > >
> > > > > In general Lucene supports smooth migration to one next major
> > version,
> > > > > so now migrating to 6.6.5 from 5.5.3 can be made smooth with the
> > help of
> > > > > existing API changes alone in 6.6.5 ? any guidance on this will be
> > > > helpful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks in advance!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 2 Apr 2019, 14:36 Adrien Grand, <jpou...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Brahmam,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This isn't possible: data can only be searched with
> > > > > > LongPoint#newRangeQuery if the field has been indexed with
> > LongPoints.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 7:04 AM brahmam <sreerama.n...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In continuation to the previous mail, we see for the second
> > point the
> > > > > > newly
> > > > > > > added data after upgrade will not be searchable if we use
> > > > > > > LegacyNumericRangeQuery.newLongRange(). so the second point is
> > > > invalid
> > > > > > now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So please suggest on the point 1 how to search old and new data
> > using
> > > > > > > LongPoint.newRangeQuery() only.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > thank you in advance!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 9:37 AM brahmam <sreerama.n...@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The main idea to migrate to 6.6.5(not to 7.6.x) from 5.5.3 is
> > to
> > > > have
> > > > > > > > smooth upgrade by avoiding re-indexing of the data at this
> > point of
> > > > > > time.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Coming to the issue of not able to search the old data(which
> > was
> > > > > > indexed
> > > > > > > > with 5.5.3) when we upgrade to 6.6.5 is
> > > > > > > > > The old data search works fine if we use
> > > > > > > > LegacyNumericRangeQuery.newLongRange(), but the same data
> > search
> > > > does
> > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > work if we use LongPoint.newRangeQuery().
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Below are the 2 questions running in my mind, could you please
> > > > suggest
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > this ?
> > > > > > > > 1) How to overcome the issue to use LongPoint.newRangeQuery()
> > > > > > > > 2) Is it good to go now with using
> > > > > > LegacyNumericRangeQuery.newLongRange()
> > > > > > > > and later(after a year, assuming by that time the data exists
> > > > would be
> > > > > > > > indexed with 6.x only) change using LongPoint.newRangeQuery()
> > when
> > > > > > mirating
> > > > > > > > to 7.x
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > thank you in advance!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 8:53 PM Erick Erickson <
> > > > > > erickerick...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >> First I have to ask why not use something much more recent?
> > 7.5
> > > > comes
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >> mind.
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> There’s not enough information here to say anything at all
> > about
> > > > what
> > > > > > > >> your problem might or might not be. “It doesn’t work” provides
> > > > little
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > >> diagnose. You might want to review:
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> https://wiki.apache.org/solr/UsingMailingLists
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> Best,
> > > > > > > >> Erick
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >> > On Mar 27, 2019, at 10:39 PM, brahmam <
> > sreerama.n...@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > Hi Team,
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > we want to migrate from lucene 5.5.3 to 6.6.5.
> > > > > > > >> > We see after upgraded to 6.6.5 we are not able to search the
> > > > > > existing
> > > > > > > >> > data(which was managed with 5.5.3), are we missing anything
> > here
> > > > > > during
> > > > > > > >> > upgrade?
> > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > >> > --
> > > > > > > >> > Thanks & Regards,
> > > > > > > >> > Sree
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > >>
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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