My first understanding was that the only way is through incubation, but actually I have other options too.
I'll lament on these options, and if/when the plugin gets in a more stable state, I'll definitely share it with the community. Thank you again to both of you! Cheers, Tamás 2023. november 16., csütörtök 13:00 keltezéssel, Michael Wechner <michael.wech...@wyona.com> írta: > I agree with Alessandro, that contributing your plugin to the Apache > Lucene project would be more lightweight, than incubating. > > But maybe it is a good idea, that you first make it available on your > own github account and check there how things go. > The Apache License permits you to do this as long as you reference that > Luke and Lucene are developed by the Apache Software Foundation. > > Btw, I just got your plugin running and it is very cool, that I can now > run Luke within IntelliJ :-) thank you for making a demo version available! > > Thanks > > Michael > > Am 16.11.23 um 10:40 schrieb Alessandro Benedetti: > > > Hi Balog, > > as I mentioned, in my opinion it's extremely unlikely that such a project > > (Intellij Luke Plugin) could be considered to be incubated. > > Luke itself is an auxiliary tool for an Apache project and it has been > > contributed to Apache Lucene so the most natural place I would see your > > project fit is Apache Lucene as well (a plugin to support an auxiliary > > tool for an Apache project in an IDE). > > And contributing to Apache Lucene is much more lightweight than setting up > > a project in the Apache incubator. > > Just to let you know. > > Also contributing to Lucene takes time and I can't guarantee your code > > would be accepted, as a minimum it will require various iterations > > of feedback, but you can start the process if you are passionate about it! > > > > Cheers > > -------------------------- > > Alessandro Benedetti > > Director @ Sease Ltd. > > Apache Lucene/Solr Committer > > Apache Solr PMC Member > > > > e-mail: a.benede...@sease.io > > > > Sease - Information Retrieval Applied > > Consulting | Training | Open Source > > > > Website: Sease.io http://sease.io/ > > LinkedIn https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd | Twitter > > https://twitter.com/seaseltd | Youtube > > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ | Github > > https://github.com/seaseltd > > > > On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 at 07:57, Balog Tamás picim...@protonmail.com.invalid > > wrote: > > > > > Michael, Alessandro, thank you for the links and the summary. I appreciate > > > the help. > > > > > > Meanwhile, I also read up on the sent documents/pages, and yeah, I see > > > it's based on donation of existing projects, and the financial aspects > > > aside, the incubation process would seemingly require more capacity on my > > > side that I can spare now. > > > > > > For now, I might put this project aside, but I'll see how I could host and > > > release this under my GitHub account at first. (Without violating license > > > terms, as the plugin's code base is still more than 90% the same as > > > Luke's, > > > as I simply reused its source code, so that I don't have to reimplement > > > everything.) > > > > > > @Michael: I built the plugin .zip file. It is about 55MB due to having to > > > bundle the dependent Lucene jars too. Is it ok if I share it on Google > > > Drive and send you a link to it to your wyona email address? > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Tamás > > > > > > 2023. november 15., szerda 16:41 keltezéssel, Alessandro Benedetti < > > > a.benede...@sease.io> írta: > > > > > > > Hi Balog, > > > > first of all, thanks, I think it's a cool idea! > > > > > > > > In regards to giving it to the Apache Software Foundation, it works as a > > > > donation: > > > > you assign a permissive license (Apache) and contribute it as a Lucene > > > > module (most likely, like it happened with Luke) or a separate project > > > > (unlikely to deserve a separate one as Luke has been donated itself to > > > > Lucene). > > > > This won't happen automatically, you'll need to <convince> a Lucene > > > > > > > > committer it's good code and a good idea and have it merged one day. > > > > > > > > You won't get any money, but if you continue contributing, you may > > > > become > > > > an Apache Lucene committer one day. > > > > Also, that won't give you any money, it's rather the opposite, it's > > > > volunteering work. > > > > > > > > Given that, there are other ways of making money out of a contribution: > > > > > > > > - a company becomes interested in such a contribution and pays you to > > > > maintain it > > > > - companies start using that part of Lucene and ask the creator to do > > > > some > > > > consulting > > > > > > > > As a personal recommendation, If you are a freelancer and need money I > > > > wouldn't suggest pursuing this activity as a quick revenue channel > > > > (because > > > > it's unlikely you'll see any money anytime soon), do it if you want to > > > > donate and benefit the broader community (i.e. you get the money from > > > > other > > > > projects) > > > > > > > > Hope it helps, > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > -------------------------- > > > > Alessandro Benedetti > > > > Director @ Sease Ltd. > > > > Apache Lucene/Solr Committer > > > > Apache Solr PMC Member > > > > > > > > e-mail: a.benede...@sease.io > > > > > > > > Sease - Information Retrieval Applied > > > > Consulting | Training | Open Source > > > > > > > > Website: Sease.io http://sease.io/ > > > > > > > > LinkedIn https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd | Twitter > > > > > > > > https://twitter.com/seaseltd | Youtube > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ | Github > > > > > > > > https://github.com/seaseltd > > > > > > > > On Wed, 15 Nov 2023 at 07:51, Balog Tamás picim...@protonmail.com > > > > .invalid > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Michael, > > > > > > > > > > Not at the moment, but I can share privately a built plugin archive (a > > > > > .zip file) that one can install manually. > > > > > > > > > > If the plugin looks suitable, I think the best place for it would be > > > > > under > > > > > the Apache GitHub organization, and my question is, are you someone > > > > > who can > > > > > help with that? > > > > > > > > > > Also, although, I don't want to jump ahead too much, since I work as a > > > > > freelancer, I have to prioritize what projects I work on. Thus, I must > > > > > ask, > > > > > if this project got under the Apache umbrella, would there be a chance > > > > > of > > > > > receiveing a financial compensation for this work (maybe under some > > > > > kind of > > > > > contract) and potential longer-term maintenance? > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Tamás > > > > > > > > > > ---Tamás Balog > > > > > Freelance JetBrains IDE Plugin Developer > > > > > > > > > > Find me on: GitHub / JetBrains Marketplace / LinkedIn / Website > > > > > > > > > > Proton Mail biztonságos e-maillel küldve. > > > > > > > > > > 2023. november 13., hétfő 10:33 keltezéssel, Michael Wechner < > > > > > michael.wech...@wyona.com> írta: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Tamas > > > > > > > > > > > > Can one download your plugin somewhere to test it? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > > > > Am 13.11.23 um 10:07 schrieb Balog Tamás: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello everyone! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been working on a proof of concept of creating an IntelliJ > > > > > > > plugin > > > > > > > from the Luke application and it reached a demoable state. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If anyone of the Lucene core maintainers, team leads, etc. is > > > > > > > interested, I'd be glad to demonstrate it and discuss a potential > > > > > > > future > > > > > > > for the plugin. In that case please let me know who and where I > > > > > > > could > > > > > > > contact directly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or, if I'm at the wrong place for such a topic, please point me to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > right direction. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > Tamás Balog > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-h...@lucene.apache.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-h...@lucene.apache.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > > > > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-h...@lucene.apache.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-h...@lucene.apache.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: java-user-unsubscr...@lucene.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: java-user-h...@lucene.apache.org
