I think that we found a true genius in this group. Brett you are right
what is the point of an IDE if you cannot use the Debugger? You might as
well use the command line interface instead or use the provided debugger
in the JDK or have a root canal with out a form of pain relief. But like I
have said, each to our own.
Dave
On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Brett Grimes wrote:
> Yes, Microsoft marketing types would call that "value-added", while most of the rest
>of us would call it "non-compliance to the standard". But couldn't you avoid using
>the MS-specific extensions to be able to run on other VMs? Or are they slipped into
>the underlying implementation?
>
> Another issue is how much use is an IDE if you can't use the integrated debugger?
>
>
> At 14:29 6/22/00 -0700, you wrote:
> >Unfortunately I have found that VJ++ has some proprietry stuff in it that
> >will not allow classes compiled by it to run on other JVMs. So it kind
> >defeats the purpose of developing java if you use VJ++.
> >
> >Dave Martin
> >
> >On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Syrus Mesdaghi wrote:
> >
> >> Hello All,
> >> in regard to J++ I have to say that it is one of the best IDEs that I have
> >> ever used. Originally, I went through many difficulties to get j++ to work,
> >> but after looking in the registry and performing several experiments, I got
> >> it to work. In fact, I have been using it for about 1 year without any
> >> difficulty. Again, I have it setup so it uses ONLY SUN's latest releases.
> >> in fact changing from one version to another, or adding any extensions such
> >> as J3D, Comm, or ... is relatively easy. I have written a doc that
> >> explains how to get it to work. I will find it and post it to the list by
> >> Monday (99% tomorrow).
> >> I should note that the main advantage of it is to get the popup helpers and
> >> the "clean" error messages. (as I said, j++ works for j3d and any other ext.
> >> as long as you have the jar or a zip that contains them. unlike some other
> >> IDEs you don't have to have the source code for the popup helper to work.
> >> please note that the debugger does not work so if you want to be able to use
> >> the debugger you should consider using another IDE)
> >>
> >> Take Care
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