Syrus,
        Have you tried any other IDE besides VJ++ and Visual Cafe? If you
haven't then you are closing some doors for yourself. Instead of having to
configure your IDE to use the _REAL_ jdk why don't you use one that was
written to use the _READ_ jdk. I had some really bad experiences with
Visual Cafe and VJ++. I have have also tried JBuilder, Visual Age and
Forte. Out of all those IDEs I still prefer JBuilder because it conforms
to what Sun has layed out as what java source should look like. But I
guess each to our own.

regards,
Dave


On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Syrus Mesdaghi wrote:

> Hi Dave,
> As I explained I use ONLY sun's class files (that I specify in the registry)
> to compile and also use Sun's VM when running. I disable j++ from finding
> ANY of the MS class files by changing the references that are stored in the
> registry.  I will forward the instructions ASAP.  I believed that you will
> be convinced once you take a look at the doc that I will forward.  I do have
> VisualCafe Expert Edition 4.0, but I still prefer to use j++.
> Take Care,
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Opus Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Thursday, June 22, 2000 4:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] VJ++ hack. Re: [JAVA3D] Java3d and J++
>
>
> >Unfortunately I have found that VJ++ has some proprietry stuff in it that
> >will not allow classes compiled by it to run on other JVMs. So it kind
> >defeats the purpose of developing java if you use VJ++.
> >
> >Dave Martin
> >
> >On Thu, 22 Jun 2000, Syrus Mesdaghi wrote:
> >
> >> Hello All,
> >> in regard to J++ I have to say that it is one of the best IDEs that I
> have
> >> ever used. Originally, I went through many difficulties to get j++ to
> work,
> >> but after looking in the registry and performing several experiments, I
> got
> >> it to work. In fact, I have been using it for about  1 year without any
> >> difficulty.  Again, I have it setup so it uses ONLY SUN's latest
> releases.
> >> in fact changing from one version to another, or adding any extensions
> such
> >> as J3D, Comm, or ...  is relatively easy.  I have written a doc that
> >> explains how to get it to work. I will find it and post it to the list by
> >> Monday (99% tomorrow).
> >> I should note that the main advantage of it is to get the popup helpers
> and
> >> the "clean" error messages. (as I said, j++ works for j3d and any other
> ext.
> >> as long as you have the jar or a zip that contains them. unlike some
> other
> >> IDEs you don't have to have the source code for the popup helper to work.
> >> please note that the debugger does not work so if you want to be able to
> use
> >> the debugger you should consider using another IDE)
> >>
> >> Take Care
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