John Wright wrote:

> should be under "Installation" (and I think a major link on the home
> page should be directly to that info).

Agreed. The problem is most of the content on j3d.org has not been
written by Steve or I. We just scrounge off the list and whatever gets
emailed to us. If the instructions aren't clear, or people want other
things put into the list (or the FAQ reorganised) they need to send us
email.

As recent events have proved, I'm not capable of keeping up with
everything that has happened (literrally physically). Things won't get
much better in the short term so I need the list members to realise that
j3d.org is run by them. Send us tutorials or FAQ entries or whatever.
Perhaps I need a page of outstanding suggestions that people can take a
look at and provide us with answers.

Hmmm... think I'll go hack this up now.....

> to be on Sun's site!  Many developers are going to download Java 3D,
> start playing with it, encounter this problem, possibly post on this
> list... all before they'd look at www.j3d.org.

While I agree, Sun is also starting to push j3d.org as a place for
answers too. A little while back when I looked, there was a link right
up there near their own FAQ link. That hopefully should be a big clue to
the users, but we can't always win :(

At least part of the problem is Sun not responding quickly enough to
problems. When this first came out, about a week after the j3d 1.2
release, they should have had a fix in the works and out the door as a
.1 release within a month with just this one thing fixed.

The problem of closed source development processes is exactly what you
see here. A company sits on their arse because of procedure while we the
developers scream for an immediate fix. There's nothing we can do about
it. No wonder things like Apache/JServ are beating the shit out of Sun's
own products (I've had the misfortune of having to develop a lot of
software recently for iPlanet and Sun based software and on a Platinum
level support agreement the response times are ridiculously long (we're
the biggest site in SE Asia)).

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Justin Couch                                    Author, Java Hacker
http://www.vlc.com.au/~justin/               Java 3D FAQ Maintainer
http://www.j3d.org/              J3D.org The Java 3D Community Site
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