Sorry !
Its because I used the calendar to check out a date just before I downloaded
Amapi and got a trial licence. Consequently I accidently set the date
incorrectly and the trial licence did not work therefore ....
By the way to conclude this little discussion on Amapi.
I can confirm that the exporters used by Amapi are C%*7&*&P
Amapi user group confirm that no material info is exported.
Why I do not know but eovia wont be getting my $$ as a consequence.
Cheers
A
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad Schrick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Adrian Meekings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2001 12:29 PM
Subject: Fwd: Re: [JAVA3D] loading a 3ds file constructed in Amapi
> Adrian -- Your dates are set funny. This note from Aug 28 is set to Sep
13 (see below)
>
> This plays heck with my email software.
>
> tia -- B.rad
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> >From: Adrian Meekings <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] loading a 3ds file constructed in Amapi
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >Riiiight
> >
> >OK Thats that idea stomped on.
> >
> >Thanks for the info
> >
> >Cheers
> >A
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "John Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 1:25 AM
> >Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] loading a 3ds file constructed in Amapi
> >
> >
> >> Adrian,
> >>
> >> That's exactly correct. If there is no material associated with a face
> >> then there is no Shape3D created. Essentially if the shape has no
color
> >> it's "invisible" and thus we don't import it. We don't import geometry
> >> that has no information for displaying it ({laugh} It's a feature not a
> >> bug!).
> >>
> >> - John Wright
> >> Starfire Research
> >>
> >> Adrian Meekings wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Sorry to harp on. Ive done some further research and found that the
> >Starfire
> >> > Research 3ds loader when loading the Amapi exported 3ds file does not
> >have a
> >> > Shape3D object associated with it.
> >> > If 3ds and MAX can see the shape (granted no colours) perhaps this
> >means
> >> > the problem is a compatabiltiy issue with the 3ds loader (dont hit
me...
> >> > please) Heres that sphere attached again. Can anyone confirm by
loading
> >this
> >> > into Java (without first opening it in an editor) That there is a
> >Shape3D
> >> > present? Sorry I cant pay you for this work!
> >> >
> >> > Kind Regards
> >> > Adrian
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: "Adrian Meekings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2001 10:32 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] loading a 3ds file constructed in Amapi
> >> >
> >> > > Thankyou everyone for the help and suggestions.
> >> > > Ive just joined an Amapi user group but no luck yet.
> >> > > The 3ds files sent to me both import and are white (default?) This
is
> >> > better
> >> > > than Ive had :?)
> >> > > When I import the files into Amapi,do nothing ,and export them they
> >loose
> >> > > all colour information (or perhaps they loose it on the import ).
Im
> >> > stumped
> >> > > :?(
> >> > > Since this is obviously an Amapi issue and not j3d i'll drop this
here
> >and
> >> > > move on.
> >> > >
> >> > > Know any free renderers (or trial products that do export colour
info)
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks for your help
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: "John Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > To: "Adrian Meekings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2001 12:24 AM
> >> > > Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] loading a 3ds file constructed in Amapi
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > > Adrian,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > I loaded your sphere into 3D Studio Max. It clearly had no color
> >> > > > associated with it. I've applied a blue color and I'm sending it
> >back
> >> > > > to you. I'm sorry I know nothing of "Amapi" and can't help you
with
> >> > > > it's operation.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > - John Wright
> >> > > > Starfire Research
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Adrian Meekings wrote:
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Yes no details re colours. Unfortunately I can apply any range
of
> >> > > colours in
> >> > > > > Amapi and have them rendered (by Amapi ) but it appears they
dont
> >> > export
> >> > > > > this information.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Just for kicks here is the sphere. Are you able to tell me if
Im
> >> > > applying a
> >> > > > > colour or texture ? the Amapi material editor is not clear on
> >exactly
> >> > > what
> >> > > > > Im applying to the object?
> >> > > > > Kind Regards
> >> > > > > A
> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > From: "Adrian Meekings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > > > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 1:31 PM
> >> > > > > Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] loading a 3ds file constructed in Amapi
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > > Thanks Ill look into this...
> >> > > > > > Your right I didnt realise that about modelers. Trap for
young
> >> > > players.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Cheers
> >> > > > > > A
> >> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > > > > From: "John Wright" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2001 11:11 AM
> >> > > > > > Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] loading a 3ds file constructed in Amapi
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Adrian,
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Most likely your sphere doesn't have a material applied
(i.e.
> >it's
> >> > > > > > > "invisible").
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > The best first step to debugging these issues is to look at
> >the
> >> > log
> >> > > > > > > output. If you aren't getting any materials then you won't
> >see
> >> > > > > > > anything. Our loader doesn't render geometry unless it has
a
> >> > color.
> >> > > > > > > Many people don't understand it because viewed in a
modeling
> >> > program
> >> > > > > > > like 3D Studio Max you'll see an object color applied so
you
> >can
> >> > see
> >> > > > > > > your model as you build it.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Look for lines in the log file like:
> >> > > > > > > Material Name: Material #26
> >> > > > > > > Mat Ambient Chunk ChunkID = a010 Length: 15
> >> > > > > > > Color 24 Chunk ChunkID = 11 Length: 9Color Value
> >(r,g,b) =
> >> > > > > > > 25,25,25
> >> > > > > > > Mat Diffuse Chunk ChunkID = a020 Length: 15
> >> > > > > > > Color 24 Chunk ChunkID = 11 Length: 9Color Value
> >(r,g,b) =
> >> > > > > > > 127,127,127
> >> > > > > > > and then down further:
> >> > > > > > > Face Array Chunk ChunkID = 4120 Length: 1715
> >> > > > > > > Number of Faces: 120
> >> > > > > > > Mesh Mat Group Chunk ChunkID = 4130 Length: 261
> >> > > > > > > Applying Mat Name: Material #32 <- if no
material
> >> > > applied
> >> > > > > > > it's invisible!
> >> > > > > > > Number of triangles = 120
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > - John Wright
> >> > > > > > > Starfire Research
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Adrian Meekings wrote:
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Hello all
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Im having dificulty seeing a simple sphere that Im
loading
> >using
> >> > > > > > Starfire Research 3ds loader (as a test) I placed ambient
> >lighting
> >> > > within
> >> > > > > > the scene
> >> > > > > > > > but still no luck. Can anyone please tell me what Im
doing
> >> > wrong?
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > The information to screen appears to inform me that the
> >loader
> >> > is
> >> > > > > > working (there are no error messages)
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > my code is:
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Inspector3DS loader = new
> >> > > > > > Inspector3DS("S:/JDK_Forte/forte4j/sphere/sphere.3ds");
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > loader.setLogging(true); // turns on writing a log file
> >> > > > > > > > loader.setDetail(7); // sets level of detail of report
log
> >> > > > > > > > loader.setTextureLightingOn(); // turns on texture
modulate
> >mode
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > loader.parseIt();
> >> > > > > > > > TransformGroup max = loader.getModel();
> >> > > > > > > > Transform3D sphereTransform = new Transform3D();
> >> > > > > > > > max.getTransform(sphereTransform);
> >> > > > > > > > //sphereTransform.setScale(new
Vector3d(0.005,0.005,0.005));
> >> > > > > > > > //sphereTransform.setScale(new
Vector3d(0.001,0.001,0.001));
> >> > > > > > > > //sphereTransform.setScale(new Vector3d(1.0,1.0,1.0));
> >> > > > > > > > max.setTransform(sphereTransform);
> >> > > > > > > > zoomTransformGroup.addChild(max);
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > The loader will import successfully a .3ds file that I
> >pulled of
> >> > > the
> >> > > > > web
> >> > > > > > > > (a coffie table ) but not my sphere.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > The sphere was built and exported by Amapi.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > Kind Regards
> >> > > > > > > > A
> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > >
> >> >
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> >> > > > > Name: sphere.3ds
> >> > > > > sphere.3ds Type: unspecified type
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> >> > > > > Encoding: base64
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> >> > Name: sphere.3ds
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