I thought that Sun was working on a version of the JRE that worked with
IE6...isn't that what the new XP version of the JRE is supposed to be?

I thought that the man upstairs (Scott Mc) said that they'd have an XP
compatable JRE at the time that XP launched...

could be wrong though.

Mike

----- Original Message -----
From: "John Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Still having problems with applets...


> Kelvin,
>
> Due to the ubiquity of Internet Explorer on the web, its almost impossible
> to say "use Netscape instead" to my customers.  Of course, some customers
> will voluntarily switch when their browsers stop working.  Many corporate
> customers will not have this option because their standard browser is IE.
>
> When I run Mozilla and attempt to download the plugin, I can't get past
the
> "ACCEPT/DECLINE" end user licence agreement page.  I suspect that you are
> rejecting any browser that doesn't identify itself as one of the major
> accepted browsers.  Since Mozilla and some other browsers take Netscape
> plugins I suggest that you allow other than Netscape users to get past
that
> EULA.
>
> Internet Explorer 6.0 Java and JAVA SCRIPT incompatibilities are going to
be
> a real pain when that thing goes into wide use.  I just hope that the
> problems ARE as a result of Microsoft's incompatibilities and not through
> Sun's plugin or my code.  I'm particularly concerned about the Javascript
> problems I'm seeing.  Javascript is probably in more widespread use on the
> web than Java.
>
> Cheers!
>
> -- John
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Discussion list for Java 3D API
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelvin Chung
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 11:03 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Still having problems with applets...
> >
> >
> > Hi John,
> >
> >    Java plugin may not work under IE6.0, see
> >
> >
http://www.usatoday.com/life/cyber/tech/review/2001-08-28-ie-released.htm
> >
> > Please use Netscape instead.
> >
> > - Kelvin
> > --------------
> > Java 3D Team
> > Sun Microsystems Inc.
> >
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> > >Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 23:19:44 -0700
> > >From: John Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Still having problems with applets...
> > >Comments: To: Kelvin Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >Kelvin,
> > >
> > >I think this is very important so please take note...
> > >
> > >I performed each of the steps described on the web page you sent me,
and
> > >each time I tested the applet, it crashed IE 6.0.  I am using plugin
1.3.
> > >Nothing seemed to help and the applet crashed IE 6.0 as soon as
> > the applet
> > >loading web page was touched.
> > >
> > >I *was* able to correct the problem by changing the web page
> > that starts the
> > >applet to run the plugin for IE and Netscape on Windows and Solaris
ONLY.
> > >The java script that HTML Converter embeds in the web page for
"extended
> > >(and ALL browsers)" apparently crashes IE 6.0 immediately.
> > >
> > >Has Microsoft changed IE 6.0 to be incompatible with the Javascript
that
> > >HTMLConverter produces in this case? Or maybe the generated
> > Javascript has a
> > >problem with plugin 1.3 and IE 6.0.  At any rate, the simpler "IE and
> > >Netscape for Windows and Solaris" works.
> > >
> > >Your suggestions for nulling out the view platform, et al in the
> > destroy()
> > >method looked good, but IE 6.0 still wedges solid when I close
> > the applet.
> > >I don't think its the code... I think it has something to do
> > with the plugin
> > >and IE 6.0.  Is Microsoft deliberately changing the plugin API so as to
> > >sabotage your efforts?
> > >
> > >Also, in a related issue... the Zoom behavior doesn't seem to
> > work properly
> > >in the applet, although run from the command line zoom is just
> > fine.  In the
> > >applet, "zoom" just does a translate.
> > >
> > >-- John
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Discussion list for Java 3D API
> > >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelvin Chung
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2001 3:34 PM
> > >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Still having problems with applets...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Hi John,
> > >>
> > >> Please check out.
> > >>
> > >> http://www.j3d.org/faq/running.html#import
> > >>
> > >> - Kelvin
> > >> -----------
> > >> Java 3D Team
> > >> Sun Microsystems Inc.
> > >>
> > >> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >X-Sender: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >MIME-Version: 1.0
> > >> >Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 17:28:10 -0400
> > >> >From: John Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Still having problems with applets...
> > >> >Comments: To: Kelvin Chung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >> >
> > >> >Urk.... I didn't expect this.  Crashed the applet on launch...
> > >> >
> > >> >java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: javax.media.j3d.Canvas3D
> > >> >        at com/ms/vm/loader/URLClassLoader.loadClass
> > >> >        at java/lang/ClassLoader.loadClassInternal
> > >> >        at stand/VisDemo.init
> > >> >        at com/ms/applet/AppletPanel.securedCall0
> > >> >        at com/ms/applet/AppletPanel.securedCall
> > >> >        at com/ms/applet/AppletPanel.processSentEvent
> > >> >        at com/ms/applet/AppletPanel.processSentEvent
> > >> >        at com/ms/applet/AppletPanel.run
> > >> >        at java/lang/Thread.run
> > >> >
> > >> >Is the Canvas object in the plugin?
> > >> >
> > >> >-- John
> > >
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