Does this mean that the default downloadable Java plugin also
has the fix?  Well, ok its in beta now but when 3.1 goes Gold
will this fix be in the plugin?  That's really the issue for
me because unless Internet users can get the fix in the plugin,
it won't make a lot of difference.

-- John

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> >From: John Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [JAVA3D] Applets crashing...
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> >All,
> >
> >The recent discussions concerning OpenGL just jangled some dendrites
> >in my aging brain.  I've been testing Java 3d applets against browsers
> >under Windows 98 and Linux, and for the most part experience crashes when
> >the applet removes the Canvas3d object (this occurs when the applet is
> >destroyed or unloaded).
> >
> >Now I had assumed that the culprit was the *browser* or a bug in Java 3d.
> >Mozilla seems perfectly happy running my applets but IE 6.0 and
> >Netscape wedge the machine solid when the applet is closed.
> >
> >But I've only conducted these tests on my laptop which is equiped with
> >a really crappy ATI board.  These mobile graphics boards are known to
> >have problems with OpenGL (in fact they don't run OpenGL based apps)
> >and since Java 3d is perhaps trying to use OpenGL, I wonder if
> the problem
> >isn't in the OpenGL handling (although problems ONLY occur when
> the applet
> >is destroyed).  That means my crashes are specific to this laptop or
> >any machine that doesn't run OpenGL properly.
> >
> >Interesting thought huh?
> >
> >So, could it be that Java 3d is having problems with OpenGL, and not
> >specifically Java 3d or the browser?
> >
>
> This bug 4466966
> - IE/Netscape crash and exit sometimes when applet reload
>
> is fixed in v1.3 beta1.
>
> Thanks.
>
> - Kelvin
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