Um.... in which case the question is, "is this fix in the plugin"?

If the fix has only now appeared in beta, I suspect not and that means
I'll waiting a while for a fix in the plugin.

As always, please correct me if I'm wrong.

-- John


> -----Original Message-----
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> Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Applets crashing...
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>
> >From: "John Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Kelvin Chung" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: [JAVA3D] Applets crashing...
> >Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2001 20:18:46 -0500
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> >Does this mean that the default downloadable Java plugin also
> >has the fix?  Well, ok its in beta now but when 3.1 goes Gold
> >will this fix be in the plugin?  That's really the issue for
> >me because unless Internet users can get the fix in the plugin,
> >it won't make a lot of difference.
> >
>
> As long as Java3D v1.3 beta1 is used this should be OK.
> It is not related to JDK or Java plugin version.
>
> - Kelvin
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> >-- John
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
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> >> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Kelvin Chung
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2001 2:19 PM
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> >> Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Applets crashing...
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> >> >Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2001 13:59:57 -0500
> >> >From: John Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >> >Subject: [JAVA3D] Applets crashing...
> >> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> >
> >> >All,
> >> >
> >> >The recent discussions concerning OpenGL just jangled some dendrites
> >> >in my aging brain.  I've been testing Java 3d applets against browsers
> >> >under Windows 98 and Linux, and for the most part experience
> crashes when
> >> >the applet removes the Canvas3d object (this occurs when the applet is
> >> >destroyed or unloaded).
> >> >
> >> >Now I had assumed that the culprit was the *browser* or a bug
> in Java 3d.
> >> >Mozilla seems perfectly happy running my applets but IE 6.0 and
> >> >Netscape wedge the machine solid when the applet is closed.
> >> >
> >> >But I've only conducted these tests on my laptop which is equiped with
> >> >a really crappy ATI board.  These mobile graphics boards are known to
> >> >have problems with OpenGL (in fact they don't run OpenGL based apps)
> >> >and since Java 3d is perhaps trying to use OpenGL, I wonder if
> >> the problem
> >> >isn't in the OpenGL handling (although problems ONLY occur when
> >> the applet
> >> >is destroyed).  That means my crashes are specific to this laptop or
> >> >any machine that doesn't run OpenGL properly.
> >> >
> >> >Interesting thought huh?
> >> >
> >> >So, could it be that Java 3d is having problems with OpenGL, and not
> >> >specifically Java 3d or the browser?
> >> >
> >>
> >> This bug 4466966
> >> - IE/Netscape crash and exit sometimes when applet reload
> >>
> >> is fixed in v1.3 beta1.
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >> - Kelvin
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