Hi,

We have an application which bundles 4 programs each of which has their
installer, which includes the JRE and Java3d. We have interpreted the
"unchanged" wording in the license as just having to use the Sun
installers.
We have therefore have written as super-installer which runs the
installation packages in the right order, with opt-outs for users who
know which sub-systems are already installed.
Some of our users are engineers in the field whose lap-tops are not
within reach of an internet connection.

Regards

Mike Goldwater
Auric Hydrates Ltd
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion list for Java 3D API [mailto:JAVA3D-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jacob Marner
> Sent: 15 March 2002 22:56
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [JAVA3D] Licensing Clarification needed
>
> Ok, now I am confused. I was under the strong impression
> that I simply could take the Java3D DLLs and JAR files
> and bundle with my application.
>
> In the license agreement it says that I may distribute it as
> long as I:
>
> >>  (i) distribute the Software complete and unmodified and only
bundled
> as
>      part of your Programs,
>
> What does "complete and unmodified" mean?
>
> Does this mean that I may only distribute it in the uninstalled form
> (as the file java3d-1_3-beta1-win-opengl-sdk.exe) or that I may
> distribute it as the jar and dll files only (the complete and
unmodified
> set).
>
> If it only the first option that is legal java3D becomes unusable for
> many commercial purposes where completely automatical and
> garanteed installation is important. I personally always recommend
> people to bundle a JVM with their app to ensure that everything
> runs smoothly. If the Java3D files cannot be installed the same way
> it would be a serious problem. The end-user should *not* have to
> know anything at all about Java or java3D during the install so
> running the Java3D installer is unacceptable.
>
> Jacob Marner
>
>
> > >We cannot expect the users to install it themselves as they are
mainly
> > >non-computer literate biologists who have enough problems with Java
Web
> > >Start.
> > >
> > So you want to repackage the Java3D install into your own?  That
would
> > be a problem.  But I'm not sure why you would do that.  In your
> > installer you just run their installer, when it returns just keep
going.
> >
>
>
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