couple remarks concerning the trail:
* the writer of the initial question can have 2 ideas:
- he wonders if... : then he needs to know he asked a potential intrusive
question (he might influence himself the answer over time)
- he is a DirectX fan: then, especially in these times, it's a very cheap but
effective way to...
* to the point:
I know both OpenGL and J3D. While many companies might have gone for OpenGL without
making a tradeoff (it requires more energy, but who cares, it's faster and there is
money enough...) in a downturn economy, people might want to trade in some performance
for reduction in labor cost.
Second, J3D has matured over time, which brings it very close to the commercial level
(of course, you need to know for what it is good: you do not buy a truck for speeding
either right?)
Third, with increasing BW, and people downloading GB of MP3's, don't tell me that
downloading J3D is unacceptable (ok, there will always be grandma's around...and for
some people, using a computer is too big of a step to use email. Does this mean, we
should never have had it?) Added to this, what do we expect? People downloading J3D
first, and then waiting for a killer app? Or do we write a killer-app first?
(obviously rhetorical Q)
I think, especially in this time, it's THE time for SUN to boost J3D a bit, and stress
the reduced labor cost...
It would be good though that we see a clear message from somebody with a SUN
signature...
Kristof
PS: We plan on introducing J3D in our company.
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R&D
Vartec, Holstraat 19, B_9000 Gent, Belgium
Work: 09/269.99.66
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wolfgang Kienreich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2003 10:43 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [JAVA3D] AW: [JAVA3D] Is Java3D going to be end-of-lifed?
>
>
> > This has NOTHING to do with the quality of Java or Java3d.
> > If their products dont sell, their products DONT SELL. They are NOT
> selling java3d, rather technologies
> > that leverage it. Your reasoning doesnt seem to make sense to me on
> this.
> >
> > ian
> >>
> >> I noticed that the following products that uses Java3D had
> abandoned
> >> their development.
>
> I can only support Ian's view on the issue.
>
> We are into application oriented research in knowledge management, and
> my team is doing knowledge visualisations of all kind, and trying to
> sell it to customers. The first thing that happened when the economy
> started to go down was that even the few customers who'd
> shown interest
> in 3D visualisation before immediatly retreated from the area. Yes,
> perhaps a nice flash animation, some colored squares and circles,
> "y'know, like, i've seen on that website, looked sooo nice", but no 3D
> please, to hard to handle, no true advantage, inmature technology, you
> name it.
>
> In general, while 2D visualisation is flourishing and many companies
> working in the field make good money, 3D is still a market of small
> niches, for example medical data visualisation, and outside
> that niches
> life is hard.
>
> Bottom line: I would not dare to judge the future potential of a
> technology like Java3D by the success or failure of the
> product ideas of
> a few startups.
>
> Cheers
>
> Wolfgang
>
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> -----Urspr�ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Discussion list for Java 3D API
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Ian M Nieves
> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Februar 2003 09:27
> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Betreff: Re: [JAVA3D] Is Java3D going to be end-of-lifed?
>
>
> This has NOTHING to do with the quality of Java or Java3d.
> If their products dont sell, their products DONT SELL. They are NOT
> selling java3d, rather technologies that leverage it. Your reasoning
> doesnt seem to make sense to me on this.
>
> ian
>
>
> On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Scott wrote:
>
> > I noticed that the following products that uses Java3D had
> abandoned
> > their development.
> >
> > WebScope3D from http://www.webscope3d.com/
> > SolidWorks Viewer http://www.solidworks.com/
> > SDRC(EDS) JView http://www.eds.com/products/plm/
> > and
> > JView3DPro from http://www.int.com/ is raising the
> > concern regarding the future of the Java3D API!
> >
> > It's really sad to see it happened!
> > If more companies raise the same concern and have a
> > real doubt about the future of Java3D API, don't you think that
> > End-of-Lifed might not just be rumors anymore! It's
> becoming a fact in
>
> > my mind!
> >
> > So what is the real issue behind all these doubts?
> > Is this the general issue of Java on the Client side?
> > Or it's the design of Java3d API itself?
> > I would like to hear your opinion on this issue and
> > if possible, share with us any success stories you have
> > using the Java3D API.
> >
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Scott
> >
> >
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