Iam, Obviously, it could be redone, just using the specs, but i think that then there will be problems if using sun util classes (copyright, licensing...). Moreover, we'll miss the nice job of the j3d team for clever optimisations and such things. Wouldn't that be worse than having nothing, and a wouldn't that be a great waste of energy? We could use that energy to program more and better j3d software, instead. I need portability, and we have to admit that j3d is not that portable. GL4Java is said to be stalled, LWJGL is of no use for me, Magician is also stalled, so only reasonable remaining choice is J3D. I would really hate being forced to do my own GL binding, just because of that stupid platform problem. I"ve got better things to do than reinventing the wheel, as all of us.
At 03/03/2003 03:58:00, you wrote: >Frederic, > >I am also bothered by this. I will not be naive to the fact that there >may be some "political issues" at play here as well. I have heard rumors >that Apple has a working (perhaps not tweaked) version of J3D on OSX. (I >dont like rumors either, but I heard a while ago) And this makes sense, >since porting J3D to an OpenGL platform should not be difficult. > >So I do believe that Apple has J3D working. >Perhaps they have been waiting to release JDK 1.4.1. >Now there seem to be no more excuses. If we dont see Java3D relatively >soon (perhaps 2-3 months), then perhaps we should seriously consider doing >a port ourselves. This would either involve re-engineering it or reverse >engineering it, pick your poison. > >As an alternative, I am also considering adding J3D functionalities to >GL4Java. This would bridge the functionality gap between the two of them, >while still allowing the developer to squeeze out performance if they >wish. I kinda like that idea also. Who knows. > >Annoyed, >Ian > > > >On Mon, 3 Mar 2003, Frederic Barachant wrote: > >> BUMP !! >> Anyone at sun has something to say about this? I've been waiting almost two years >> for this >> to happen. Official propaganda at this time was that Apple was working on it. Well. >> They do it >> eyes shut, and with one finger, or maybe it was a lie. >> If it's not planned, please be honest and say it. If there is a problem with Apple, >> go on, say it. >> We can lobby them. There are tons of people around that would benefit from having >> an osx version >> of it. Blackdown people could even port their linux version, if their license >> permitted them to do so. >> (by the way, you at Blackdown, would you do it if your license did permit you to do >> that ?) >> >> Non communication is the worst state to resolve problems. Please, explain what's >> happening, we might >> be of some help. >> >> At 25/02/2003 14:51:00, you wrote: >> >I know, I know; No comment from Macintosh about Java3D. Although now that >> >Java 1.4 is implemented for OSX, maybe Java3D is next? >> > >> >Any insiders out there have any good news? >> > >> >Take Care, >> >Mike >> > >> >_________________________________________________________________ >> >Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* >> >http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail >> > >> >=========================================================================== >> >To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body >> >of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help". >> > >> >> =========================================================================== >> To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body >> of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help". >> >> > >=========================================================================== >To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body >of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help". > =========================================================================== To unsubscribe, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "signoff JAVA3D-INTEREST". For general help, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and include in the body of the message "help".
